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    Default Groz low angle planer

    Was in Carbatec yesterday and decided I might buy one of these to practice my fettling skills before getting a decent unit, ferretarse or LN.
    Anyway, pull it all to pieces and looks like a straightforward job until we adjust the front sole, the damned thing sits at an angle when closed up, too much to sand away and when opened up sits at an opposing angle.
    I think it could be a return trip for something a bit more accurate, I know it is a cheap plane but I did expect something a little better than this.
    Anyone else suffered with these planes or did I just get unlucky? I will see what Carbatec have to say next week when it goes back.
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    Groz do not have much of a reputation - other than for some VERY ordinary kit...

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    I just got on to the forum this morning to ask if these planes were worth it. Guess I'll keep looking for an old Stanley or something.

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    As soon as I can get some spare cash, Ill get one of theses, they seem to be the better of the all rounders.

    http://www.carbatec.com.au/store/ind...=130_6920_6930

    Al

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    Took the beastie back a week or so ago, no problems, now the proud new father of a Veritas low angle plane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain View Post
    Took the beastie back a week or so ago, no problems, now the proud new father of a Veritas low angle plane

    Prick...

    So how does it drive

    Al

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    Been so busy at work and totally shagged when I get home haven't had a chance for a drive, may get a go at the weekend...I hope.

    Edit::: It's Mr Prick thankyou.
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    Default Re groz

    Groz is made in India.

    If there is anything mechanical item made well from there, I for one would love toknow about it. That will be a first .I once owned a P.O.S. Tata Telcoline.

    None of them have heard of the words like quality control, quality, assurance ,build quality or customer satisfaction.

    Chinese over indian any day, and he gets a Veritas.
    Lucky Plick.

    Grahame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahame Collins View Post
    ..................I once owned a P.O.S. Tata Telcoline...........

    You poor bugger!

    Mick
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    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

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    Which is better, the LN or Veritas Low angle plane?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shedhand View Post
    Which is better, the LN or Veritas Low angle plane?
    Personal aesthetics seems to be the common divider of opinion. Veritas is heaver, and has more whizz-bang knobs, adjusters and features then you can poke a stick at, plus a few dollars cheaper. If new, modern, and cutting edge, technology is your thing for better or worse then veritas is your brand.

    However if you prefer the simple way, like the use of brass in aesthetics of the LN, I enjoy the simplicity of a LN, I find whizz-bang knobs and adjusters to be more a root of concern then a feature. LN may not be whizz-bang but it is defiantly tried and tested in terms of design.

    I used to back Veritas, and had no interest in LN tools then I picked up a LN block plane, at the woodworking show, and their was something right about the world at that moment that I just do not get from a Veritas tool.

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    I should add that I did pay the difference, not a straight swap, also got a patio heater that they had and never used for $100.oo
    They had a few bits out the front on sale, scratched or minor dents etc for what seemed reasonable prices.
    If SWMBO leaves me alone I might get a chance to sleaze out thisarvo and give it a run.
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    I luvs ya Iain

    Was just about to buy one, I asssumed it was made in Eastern Europe by the name. Had an awful experience with an Indian plane, but got some chisels that are great.

    Not only did you save me the $50, but the trip out to Carbatech and the probable blue to return it.
    Bodgy
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    You won't have a blue at carbatec over a return. not in my experience anyhow.
    By the way what are the record low angle block planes like?
    ray c
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    Had a bit of a play yesterday on a piece of scrap Tas Oak, without having sharpened it yet it took some beautiful paper thin shaving off the length of the timber, with the mouth wide open.
    Tried the end grain without adjusting and it tore it to pieces, closed the mouth and started to remove fine shavings again, tore out the end though as I couldn't fit a sacrificial block due to the vice racking (I know I can fix it but I didn't).
    Adjustments are simple, easy and very precise, I just need to adjust the two set screws on the side to locate the blade, but like any kid with a new toy, had to have a play first.
    No blade chatter and fits nicely in my massive paw, plenty of weight to get it through without having to force it down.
    No blues with Carbatec either, they saw the problem and just took it back, only concern was they said they had a bloke who will probably buy it as they were now out of stock and he wanted one.
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