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  1. #1
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    Default Joy truns to PAIN!

    I was given 4 Stanley Bailey planes a while ago & have been refurbishing them one at a time.

    The 6C & 5C have been a dream to do but........

    I started on the #4C today, stripped it all down, applied the horrific paint stripper & then chucked it in the electrolysis bath. After a couple of hours pulled it out & scrubbed it down with a Scotch-Birte pad.

    My joy turned to horror when I discovered the right hand cheek of the plane was cracked in almost a full semi-circle :eek: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

    Things had been going SO well up until then...... Oh well, Sh#t happens I suppose
    Cheers

    Major Panic

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    Oh well, beggars can't be choosers. Looking on the bright side 2 outa 3's not bad.
    To be hopelessly optimistic - time to do some metal work and figure out a way to adapt it into something else?

    Was there going to be a pattern, 4C, 5C, 6C, 7C, 8C ....?
    Cheers,
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    Had a similar experience with a #6. Once cleaned had a crack from corner of mouth across sole and up thru the cheek.

    It's now off being brazed so will report on results. I'm optimistic, but that's rather a state of mind than a empirical assessment.

    Clint's right Colonel, 2 out of 3's good going.
    Bodgy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clinton1
    Was there going to be a pattern, 4C, 5C, 6C, 7C, 8C ....?
    Hey Clinton,

    There was gonna be a set -1

    #2C, #3C, #4C, #5C, #6C, #7C & #8C. I got the #'s 2C & 8C off eBay. I couldn't afford a #1 in my wildest dreams so it would of been a set -1
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    G'day Major,

    If you don't like that #4C, I'll gladly have it.

    I've got a Woden #4 and it planes as fine as, the only fault with it is the previous owner tried to stamp his initals into each cheeck of it and broke them off.

    I didn't notice when I first bought it, I was just grabbing planes as fast as I could as he was selling the cheap as at a garage sale. Then I figured out what he'd done when cleaning one of the other planes by electrolysis and noticed he'd stamped one of the cheeks of another #4, thankfully it didn't break.
    I make things, I just take a long time.

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    Think of it this way, if you didn't clean the plane up would you still have used it. If you wouldn't, I would. Tough break (excuse the pun).
    Have a nice day - Cheers

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    Ahhh, ePay. Amazing how much money I'm saving now I can't access that.

    Rather have an 8C though...
    Cheers,
    Clinton

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    If you can, check it under a microscope and see if the iron crystals are disjointed along the line because it looks more like a casting fault that occurs if the molten iron was too cold and/or the pouring vent to allow the iron to fill the cheek was blocked. Tap it with a small steel hammer and if it "rings" rather than "thunks" then it is still sound and usable. As said above, if you hadn't cleaned it up you would be using it happily in blissful ignorance. I'm guessing at the next bit but I have a theory that plane makers (and other tool makers) did the ring test on flawed castings and those that passed were cosmetically filled with lead which seems to disappear during electrolytic cleaning. That is why labourers who cleaned castings were (and still are) called fettlers because, like their railway counterparts, they checked castings with a railway fettlers hammer.
    Ring it, fill it, use it, abuse it and, if it breaks, you've lost nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clinton1
    Ahhh, ePay. Amazing how much money I'm saving now I can't access that.

    Rather have an 8C though...
    Wadda ya mean ya can't access eBay????

    Does eBay have anything except hand planes?????? :eek:
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by fletty
    If you can, check it under a microscope and see if the iron crystals are disjointed along the line because it looks more like a casting fault that occurs if the molten iron was too cold and/or the pouring vent to allow the iron to fill the cheek was blocked. Tap it with a small steel hammer and if it "rings" rather than "thunks" then it is still sound and usable. As said above, if you hadn't cleaned it up you would be using it happily in blissful ignorance. I'm guessing at the next bit but I have a theory that plane makers (and other tool makers) did the ring test on flawed castings and those that passed were cosmetically filled with lead which seems to disappear during electrolytic cleaning. That is why labourers who cleaned castings were (and still are) called fettlers because, like their railway counterparts, they checked castings with a railway fettlers hammer.
    Ring it, fill it, use it, abuse it and, if it breaks, you've lost nothing.
    Fletty
    Thanks Fletty,

    I do as you suggest & bash it wif a BIG hammer!
    Cheers

    Major Panic

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    I had in mind a gentle tap with a little hammer but hey .... what the heck,
    we now have "ring", "thunk", "gong" and "s**t happens",
    let us know, Fletty

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    ooops, just noticed that I forgot to celebrate my 200th post, must grab a drink, now we have "ring, thunk. gong, s**t happens ... and cheers!"
    Fletty

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    I'm going through the work firewall, which doesn't allow access to ePay.

    Therefor I had to 'give up' on about 7 planes that I was watching and at least 4 of them I would have been willing to bid higher than they went for.

    One of those, I think, I have seen listed for sale for a sweet $70 higher than the original purchase.

    Don't worry, I intend to "catch up", and am working on a cunning plan!
    Cheers,
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    What rotten luck Major! At least two are sound. I wish I could get my 4 1/2 Stanley looking like yours. At least it's halfway there after 3 hours of brushing and sanding. Now for the electrolysis bath.

    cheers
    RR

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    Sad story Major, you have my sympathy.
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