Thread: lazarus planes

I'm usually a bit reluctant to depart from the norm on handplane aesthetics, but those are kinda cool. They look modern but maintain their elegance.

The pistol plane is a weird one... I'm a skeptic, but I'd certainly give it a go. Maybe one day they'll come to a Lie Nielsen event in Seattle...

Thanks for the link.

Cheers,
Luke

I sent him an email, about end grain planes and he sent back this within a couple of hours.

Infill Miter Plane #229 — The Lazarus Handplane Co.

Still well out of my price range.

Fantastic looking plane.
Realistically I think $1000AU ish
Is not a bad asking pricing.

Cheers Matt



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Massive! is the first word that springs to mind. You sure wouldn't want to drop one of these beasties on your toe. Definitely eye-catching, and definitely not re-cycled Stanleys or British infills.

I guess I shouldn't make any judgements without actually trying one, but I can't help wondering. They do strike me as a bit OTT for mass. The soles look to be 1/2" (~13mm) thick and the sides around 3/8" (~9.5mm) which are both double the heaviest fabricated planes I've ever seen. You'd need a fairly thick sole to use riveted construction, but not that thick, so I assume the massive chassis is a deliberate choice. Can a plane be too heavy? The thought of pushing one of these all morning doesn't appeal. The blades match the bodies for mass, so they should be rock solid on the worst of knotty woods.

And one final observation, all the smoothers I saw are single-iron, wether BU or BD (which seem to be around 45* unless the perspective is throwing my eye off). While I'm not as convinced as some that cap-irons are the answer to all prayers, they can certainly make a very significant contribution with cutters pitched in the 45-55 degree range, according to my own experience. I've been playing about recently, trying to decide if I really needed a cap-iron on the 55 degree infill I made a few years ago, because I've got a massive (plain) A2 blade that would suit it, and I could use the current capped blade for another lower-angled plane I am thinking about. Unfortunately, the bade I was considering using is too thick to fit without opening the mouth, and since that's an irrevocable step, I substituted a slightly narrower blade about the same thickness or very slightly thinner than the capped blade, for the 'single-iron' trials. Whether it's the lack of a cap-iron, or the slightly softer metal, or what, it just didn't perform as well in the single-iron form on the She-oak I was feeding to it, so I guess I'll stick with the capped blade for now....

Cheers,

Originally Posted by Simplicity

....Realistically I think $1000AU ish
Is not a bad asking pricing......

Yeah, but what about the postage? How much does it cost to ship a tank across the Pacific?

Seriously, anyone who's made a fabricated plane or two will know how much work goes into one! Or any sort of plane, come to that. I assume the maker of these whoppers uses jigs & machines, but there's still a lot of hand work in all that rivetting & fitting.

Au$1,000 isn't much more than the asking price for a decent 'user' infill, Clear Out, and many ask much more than that if it's perceived as even a little bit special. So you're between a rock & a hard place, I'm afraid, when it comes to infills....

Cheers,

Originally Posted by IanW

Yeah, but what about the postage? How much does it cost to ship a tank across the Pacific?

Seriously, anyone who's made a fabricated plane or two will know how much work goes into one! Or any sort of plane, come to that. I assume the maker of these whoppers uses jigs & machines, but there's still a lot of hand work in all that rivetting & fitting.

Au$1,000 isn't much more than the asking price for a decent 'user' infill, Clear Out, and many ask much more than that if it's perceived as even a little bit special. So you're between a rock & a hard place, I'm afraid, when it comes to infills....

Cheers,

Yes fair point in regarding the shipping, point taken.
I think I just make one my self less shipping involved,Sally Sally where's that blasted cold chisel again [emoji12].

Cheers Matt

Originally Posted by Simplicity

Fantastic looking plane.
Realistically I think $1000AU ish
Is not a bad asking pricing.

Cheers Matt



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I've been aware of Mateo's planes for a few years now. There have been a varied range of BU and BD planes, all with the common denominator of being Massively over-built. While they are not my taste (except for a few), they do appear well made and Exceptionally Solid. They are also low priced compared to similar makers. To some degree they resemble the early Marcou planes, one of which I have. This is equally Massive. Every now-and-then I get the urge to sell it as I just do not use it much (owing to its high mass) ... but then I pull it out and use it, and .. oh my word .. it is the best performer in the world. I get a similar sense about the planes from Mateo. I suspect that they will work out-of-this-world!

I imagine that this is the reason why the Lazarus Planes do not have chipbreakers - they rely on brute force ... a bit like a Yank muscle car vs the sophisticated Euro supercar.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Here is the Makers addition builds, he built a nice table at the bottom of the page, warning it is a long page of goodies.

https://mateopanzicafurniture.wordpress.com/page/18/

Here is some more info - https://mateopanzicafurniture.wordpress.com/about/

I sent him an email and said, "when you are a Millionaire you might be able to lower your prices to AU$500" he replied "$500 you say - here you go, and put one of his planes on ebay for auction.

I think he might already be well on the way to being a rich man - good luck to him I say, great work on all counts, and a lot of R&D, plus his day job is building and designing expensive houses.

Auction link.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/22268225...84.m1436.l2649

Regards
Stevo

Postage cost on that auction is A$100 to Oz, but US$15 if you are resident in America. The plane is at US$ 400 at the time of writing. I would hope he is already a rich man as I doubt he will get rich making those planes. Would it take him a week to make one even on a small batch production line? I was visualising and comparing the probable time taken to make Terry Gordon's planes.

I would love to try one.

Regards
Paul

Paul, look out if he has sale one day and our $$$ goes uppppp - at the same time. I might have a rush of blood.

I do know a bloke that goes over to South Carolina every 2 or 3 years.

Never know your luck