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4th March 2017, 03:37 PM #16
Ball peen hammers are fine, they tend to be as hard as or softer than sawsmithing hammers. The old dog head hammers in my collection are all in the mid 40's to low 50's HRC. The newer specialty saw hammers I have are very hard, high 50's. Claw hammers tend to be mid to low 30's.
Any decent steel hammer will do but you do want a radiused face or you run the risk of striking the saw plate with a sharp edge. A sharp edge will leave a permanent dent/mark on the plate if you drop an off kilter blow.
I'm sure tastes vary but I prefer to let the mass of the hammer drive the blow not the muscles. I think that my preference is in common with the saw doctors of past generations because dog head hammers were cataloged as available in weights ranging from about 1 to 10 lbs. Too heavy a hammer for the plate thickness makes it very easy to ruin the saw and too light leads to a lot of fruitless tapping.
P.S. - if you PM me a real email address I will send you my handsaw and backsaw tensioning procedures.Innovations are those useful things that, by dint of chance, manage to survive the stupidity and destructive tendencies inherent in human nature.
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4th March 2017, 05:09 PM #17
Hi Bueller,
I'm sure that the content posted by others here has more then adequately covered this topic, however I've enjoyed some success following the process outlined in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdZh_DLN9KA
My "anvil" was a sledge hammer head held in the vise.
I hope that it helps,
Zac.
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4th March 2017, 06:46 PM #18
Thanks again for all the advice guys! I've got the unbent Disston soaking in Evaporust so I'll get some pics up when done. The hardware came up quite nice and revealed it's actually a Disston Canada saw. I'll likely leave the handle alone and give it a fresh set and sharpening. If it performs well then I'll look at making a new handle as a small project.
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4th March 2017, 07:35 PM #19
18 posts later I finally read the title correctly. It makes so much sense now. Must have turning on the brain for some reason.
DaveTTC
Turning Wood into Art
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4th March 2017, 08:47 PM #20
I have put some pix up to show why I think the ballpein hammer could make a useful substitute for a dedicated dog head hammer (particularly as Rob has given us some hardness characteristics).
It has a similar balance to the DH hammer and suits a technique that relies on letting the hammer fall rather than a striking action.
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The hammer on the right is the one I used to use. It is too light (601g) and the head does not have a large enough face. The two DH hammers made by Rob Streeper are 732g and 977g. The ballpein is 1084g and arguably a little bit too heavy so a slightly smaller version would be preferable.
In the pix below I was trying to give an idea of the face of the hammers. I had left my dash a bit late and the light was poor.
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I have noticed that a few Disston saws turn up here that were made in Canada.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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4th March 2017, 09:45 PM #21
This is similar to what I use.
But Paul has pointed out some excellent points
as Rob has to .
Look at this on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/252607131554
Picard Planishing Hammer 252/22
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4th March 2017, 10:03 PM #22
HaRe and forbes a similar hammer in a clearance bin for $5
DaveTTC
Turning Wood into Art
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4th March 2017, 10:17 PM #23
Matt
I tried to see the weight, but it only gave a shipping weight of 2Kg. Could be a little heavy at around 1.5Kg (guessing) and A$80 landed in Oz.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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4th March 2017, 10:53 PM #24
I would say more like 400/500 grams maybe less
They are no were near 1.5kg
(That's a bag and half of sugar lol)
Cheers Matt
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4th March 2017, 11:08 PM #25
Great info everyone. I'll check out Hare and Forbes during the week, I want to see their welding stuff anyway. Otherwise I'll find a hammer on eBay before I go the ball pein hammer route, all of mine have quite small faces so the striking area would be very narrow.
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5th March 2017, 04:23 PM #26
I'm trying to do the same thing, I will be interested to see what you end up doing. I'm sure I had a hammer exactly for this purpose, I found it at a garage sale really cheap but do you think I can find it now?
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5th March 2017, 04:28 PM #27
If you can find one cheap a blacksmith's rounding hammer works too - want a handle in the 16" range or so. I started out with one and though it was a bit heavy at 2.2 lb it was okay for 0.035" thick blades if used gently. Use the more rounded face, the flatter face tends to kick more.
Innovations are those useful things that, by dint of chance, manage to survive the stupidity and destructive tendencies inherent in human nature.
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5th March 2017, 05:57 PM #28
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