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    Don't panic to much with regard your chronic addiction.
    Once you get over it,if you ever do hand planes that is. Then there's hand saws,marking gauges,hand drills, did someone say chisels.
    What about hammers maybe screw drivers.
    Did you say saw setting tools or is that just getting to weird now.
    Or what about that poor guy in the states with over 100 black smith anvils ,that's just freaky.

    Cheers Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    ......what about that poor guy in the states with over 100 black smith anvils ,that's just freaky.....
    And I would imagine he'd find all his friends were busy, if he wanted to move house....
    IW

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    And I would imagine he'd find all his friends were busy, if he wanted to move house....
    Depends were your friends hang out.
    The local weight lifting club may help him out Ian.[emoji12][emoji12][emoji12]

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    Mark my word... You'll sell at least one of the three planes you have now - possibly two or all of them - in the next 2-4 years.

    I've bought and sold (and bought again) all of my bench planes, actually...

    First I had to have all Veritas stuff. It was decided that I was gonna be a Lee Valley man.

    Then I decided that after I had a #4 and a LA Jack, I would try out a Lie Nielsen for the jointer plane, so I bought a #8.

    My world was rocked and I immediately regretted the two Veritas planes because of how much more I liked (and still outspokenly like) the Bailey style adjustment system.

    But I didn't want to take a huge loss replacing my Veritas planes with Lie Nielsen's, so I bought a Stanley No. 604 and No. 605 and sold the two Veritas planes.

    Then I came across an old Stanley No. 7 that I restored, and I liked the size of the 7 better than the 8, so the Lie Nielsen had to go.

    So now I have only Stanley bench planes (sizes 3, 4, 5, 5 1/2, and 7), and I have no more premium bench planes. I could've literally saved myself around $800 if I'd just tried old Stanleys first and stuck with that.

    Nonetheless, when the time comes, I'm sure you'll be able to figure out how to use the Marketplace forum .

    Cheers,
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    So now I have only Stanley bench planes (sizes 3, 4, 5, 5 1/2, and 7), and I have no more premium bench planes. I could've literally saved myself around $800 if I'd just tried old Stanleys first and stuck with that.
    Luke, you likely would have disliked the Stanleys if you had started with them at the start of your journey. At that time you did not know what was what - what "good" represented, or the technique to get the best out of a plane. The Veritas planes were easy to set up and get going, and they taught you what to expect before you moved to the next stage of your journey. Consider the $800 to be tuition fees

    Regards from Perth

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    Consider the $800 to be tuition fees
    Hah, I might have to use that. It's a pretty fair assessment.

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    The stanleys, or bailey/bedrock pattern are much easier to use than the veritas bench planes. With a stanley I can be confident of adjusting depth of cut deeper or finer without worrying about moving the lateral adjustment.

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    Wow, that was reassuring to read all that.

    Can't afford those beautiful looking planes from Nth America but have been coveting them I must admit.

    But with 3 restored #4's and now a gifted #6 I think, i'm feeling much happier after that read

    (and as I learn more and more about proper sharpening and adjustments I'm getting happier and happier with the hand planing too)

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    Derek beat me to it & put it better, Luke, but I certainly agree, you would still have bought/sold/bought again if you'd started with Stanleys. In any case, I think we all want to try a couple of 'premium' tools, just to find out what all the hoohah is about. Given the differences can be pretty minor, you can only fully appreciate them after you've got a good bit of experience behind your evaluations.

    I think I've paid a good deal more than $800 in tuition fees over my career.......

    Perhaps it was all money well-spent...

    Cheers,
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    I have Stanley, LN, Veritas, HNT Gordon, Marcou, Brese, plus a goodly number of planes I have built. Best? All have pros and cons. Every one is a compromise of sorts.

    Regards from Perth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Maddux View Post
    You'll sell at least one of the three planes you have now - possibly two or all of them - in the next 2-4 years
    Oh no, I don't want to hear that!

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    I discovered a plane today that I didn't know I had.
    Innovations are those useful things that, by dint of chance, manage to survive the stupidity and destructive tendencies inherent in human nature.

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    Reminds me of that old saying " You can put lipstick on a pig".

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    As promised:
    DSCF0034.jpg

    11 bench planes + 1 woody used as a scrub
    4 block planes
    2 rebates plus a bull nose rabbet
    2 spokeshaves
    An 80 & 112 scraper plus a 66 beader,
    A compass plane,
    A router plane,
    3 combination planes
    and finally, 4 ploughs.

    Erm... and in the post are another three bench planes, I have a bid on another and I'm negotiating on another combination.

    I can stop anytime I like.... it's not a problem...

    Actually; I'm going to be offloading several of these. For instance, there are 3 number 4's there; a 1979 record; a type 16 US Stanley and an Aussie Stanley with a corrugate sole. These are being replaced with a pair of 1950's Records. Likewise the Pommy Stanley 4-1/2 is also being replaced with a 50's record. There are six Anant planes in there (a 7, a combo, a plough, a rebate, a LA block and the little bullnose); 4 will be sold as I get better examples. Same for the two Carters (a 6 and a plough). These lesser quality planes performed to the standard required; but generally fell short somewhere such as ease of adjustability. Or in the case of the Carters; by simply existing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Tiff View Post
    Or in the case of the Carters; by simply existing...
    That sounds harsh - but I'll be guided by your experience and avoid them.

    Coincidentally, I bought a Stanley No 6 on Sunday. Not quite a jointer but it will do me for now. Just have to clean it up and sharpen it properly. Has some minor unwanted features but I reckon it'll scrub up fine. Been trying to find out how old it is. People say the US dating charts don't apply to ones made in England or Australia but this one has all the identifying features of a type 13 from 1902 - 1907. Would that mean it was made in the USA? There is no country shown on it anywhere that I can see.
    Cheers, Bob the labrat

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