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10th April 2012, 10:45 AM #751Try not to be late, but never be early.
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Hi Vann,
heaven forbid that you should be sneeringly called a collector, but nice brace.
Can you explain how the drill works in regard to turning in one direction regardless of which way you crank heem?
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Geoff.
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10th April 2012, 05:00 PM #752
I thought that brace might get your attention Geoff - wot wiv you being a connisseur of fine braces an' all.
The drill arrived this morning. I have freed it and all is good apart from half a tooth missing on one of the spindle cogs.
I'm at work now, so I can't take any photos of it - but I'm not sure still pictures would convey it very well anyway. However there is a you-tube video of it's little brother - the 1530. Because I'm at work I can't get into YouTube (various sites are blocked ), but google North Brothers Yankee 1530 review - YouTube - I think that'll bring up the right one. It shows exactly how they work.
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10th April 2012, 10:32 PM #753
Link to YouTube [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S1Zh_syQdI"]www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S1Zh_syQdI[/ame]
The 1555 is bigger (it's a breast drill) and has all the same features, plus 2 speeds.
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11th April 2012, 09:51 AM #754
Okay, photos of my "Yankee" 1555.
Overall view:
Attachment 204601
The other side, showing the ratchet selector:
Attachment 204602
Detail of the ratchet selector
- Plain
- LH ratchet
- RH ratchet
- RH double ratchet
- Lock
The ratchet selector rotates with the spindle so it keeps disappearing out-of-sight The broken gear tooth can be seen to the left of the selector.
Attachment 204604
Here are the drive cogs. My pikkie doesn't show it clearly, but it's actually two seperate castings; one with the outer cog and a separate casting with the inner cog. They rotate at different speeds.
Attachment 204605
The little lever here selects which drive cog drives the spindle - thereby providing two speeds.
Attachment 204606
But you really need to watch the video above to see it in motion (stills just don't do it).
The patent dates are from 1908 to 1910 and I belive North Bros began making these in 1910. At some stage a strengthened version, the 1555A was introduced. When Stanley took over North Bros. in 1946 they continued making these for several years. They are still listed in the Stanley 1958 catalogue No.34. The Stanley 1967 repair parts catalogue only lists parts for the little brother ratchet "Yankee" No.1530A (I don't have access to any other Stanley catalogues of the period).
When I bid for this it was listed as broken: "The handle doesn't want to turn and the piece where the drill pieces go into does not seem to open up."
When it arrived I found the ratchet selector was rotated out of sight, and somehow in the "Lock" position, hence it wouldn't turn. I was able to shift it to another position with a piece of wire and now the drill turns just fine (and very smoothly). As for "...the piece where the drill pieces go into..." well the chuck seems to work okay. I'm stoked .
Cheers, Vann.Last edited by Vann; 11th April 2012 at 02:11 PM. Reason: can't spell to save my life !!
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Carboot sale near to my home often throws up a few bargains... £2.50 the lot.
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11th April 2012, 10:05 AM #756Try not to be late, but never be early.
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Thanks for that link Vann, I was hoping he was going to pull it apart and show us its innards. Very interesting, I'll have to keep my eye out for one.
I've also got my eye out for a 917, yours should have four patent dates around the attachment screw at the base of the chuck.
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Geoff.
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11th April 2012, 02:08 PM #757Gatherer of rusty
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20th April 2012, 05:28 PM #758
Hi Geoff. The brace was waiting when I got back from holiday. It looks to be in reasonable condition.
I particularly like the nice grain in the handles.
Attachment 205679
Four patent dates as you suggested
Attachment 205680
It reads: "PATENTED OCT 14 02 - APR 26 04 - FEB 27 06 - JUNE 5 06"
The only other markings I've noticed are "STANLEY" & "No 917 - 8IN"
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22nd April 2012, 10:09 AM #759Try not to be late, but never be early.
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Hi Vann,
Thanks for those photos, very nice piece of gear.
I've got a 945 and a couple of 921 with the same rachet. And the same chuck on a 919 as well as a John S. Fray 106 and 126 so a 917 would be a nice addition to tie the two together.
It's nice to see a tool, like your 917, that's 90 - 100 years old and in such good condition, says a lot about the previous owner(s).
Regards,
Geoff.
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23rd April 2012, 10:05 AM #760Try not to be late, but never be early.
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Morning all,
Went to the HTPS WA tool sale on Saturday and came home with some treasure.
From back L to R, 18in and 12in rachet drills by Nettlefolds of Birmingham ( pat T Weston 1868), Stanley Canada 921 14 in, Tough WA 10in and 14in.
Front row, Millers Falls 142 10in, Stanley Aus' A144 10in MK2, Stanley Aus' A144 12in MK3, 3in centre bit, two expansive bits: Irwin 22A and Wm Ridgway model 1915, Wm Ridgway 1/4in centre bit, and finally what appears to be a split nut driver, with a cut down brace bit added as a shank.
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23rd April 2012, 10:41 AM #761Try not to be late, but never be early.
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Adjustable split nut driver?
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15th May 2012, 07:08 PM #762Awaiting Email Confirmation
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5 1/2 Stanley
Not Monday but picked this up at the local car boot sale on Sunday for $2.00. April 1910 patent and the thin version. Needs a lever cap, blade and backing iron. Only bought it for the knob and tote but it's in too good a condition to scrap, no pitting at all and the japanning looks ok. A clean will reveal all.!!
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15th May 2012, 07:10 PM #763
Luv ya work Sapling!
Well done that man!
PS the 2-1/4" blades et al are a little hard to find.
Lie Nielsen still carry the blades
Ron Hock still provides blades and cap-irons.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
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15th May 2012, 07:33 PM #764
Noice, Sapling. An oldie like that in good nick is a find indeed, at that price! I have my dad's old pre-WW2 5 1/2, and even though it still needs a bit of work on the sole, I love using it, as I find it a very handy size. It had a badly chipped lever cap, which I replaced with a new one that fitted ok, but I had to grind a smidgin off the sides of a modern iron to get it to fit comfortably through the slightly narrower mouth.
Cheers,IW
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Scribbly and Ian W, though I had a number 5 in my hand when I first picked it up, just didn't have the heft and was quite dusty so not easy to read, was attracted by the handles mainly, probably only on the third look after I bought it I realised that it was a 5 1/2, .
Found a good length Charles Taylor 2 1/4in parallel amongst my stash and I think a cap of a no 7 that fits so only need the backing iron now. Will keep digging around.
Be nice to get it up and shaving.
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