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23rd Oct 2009, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ian  now you're teasing
we expect photos !! | What.... before Derek gets one???? 
Not even our own staff have seen it.....!
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Rob (ok - I'll see what I can do.....) |
23rd Oct 2009, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Lee What.... before Derek gets one???? | especially before Derek gets one 
'cause he wont tell anyone till you are ready to release it
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ian |
23rd Oct 2009, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ian especially before Derek gets one
'cause he wont tell anyone till you are ready to release it | Ahhhh - but when Derek get his... it won't be the only thing in the parcel....  
Cheers -
Rob |
23rd Oct 2009, 08:35 AM
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WOW Sweet, now thats handy! Nice one Rob. |
23rd Oct 2009, 05:59 PM
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thanks Rob, very sweet,
at this rate you'll turn a lot of us into plane "collectors"
I take it there'll also be a left hand version
and a version in nickel-resist ductile iron ?
dare I ask — where are the finger grips and "racing stripes" ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Lee Just leaving to drive to Harrisburg for the tool Auction so, "unfortunately", you won't be able to pull any additional details out of me for at least a day or so....  .... I should be back online in 24 hours ... of course.... by then, you'll all be asleep again....  | now you'll have to tell us and post picies of what you end up buying
thanks again for sharing
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ian
Last edited by ian; 23rd Oct 2009 at 06:56 PM.
Reason: to fix some rather unfortunate spelling
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23rd Oct 2009, 06:11 PM
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I had a very rare, highly unique and very light grey plastic version to play with at one time. It came with a grey plastic blade that would not cut worth a damn. Even so it showed a lot of promise...
One of the important differences of this plane versus the LN/Stanley version is that the rabbet side of the plane is not removable - it does not need to be removed (as with the LN/Stanley version) as the blade extends across the body.
Also, note the adjustable mouth.
Rob can say more about the finger grips and "racing stripes".
Regards from Perth
Derek
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23rd Oct 2009, 06:24 PM
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Hi Derek
I noticed that the mouth was very similar to that on the NX/DX60, hence the comment.
Have you had a chance to play with the Veritas 1/2" shoulder yet ?
Give me till closer to the end of the year and I can lend you a LN 1/2" shoulder for a few weeks if you wish to compare.
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23rd Oct 2009, 06:35 PM
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Hi Ian
Yes, I gave the Veritas small shoulder plane a run for my recent article on mortice and tenon joints. It really is a nice tool. Very comfortable and it has a good presence in the hand.
I am working on a review at present where the focus will be answering the question, "Why 1/2"". I think that this is what most would want to know - what sizes are important, and why. So I will essentially compare the Small and Medium shoulder planes. It would be good to throw in a large shoulder as well.
It would be interesting to compare the Veritas and LN versions separately, because they represent quite different design types, so closer to the end of the year is good.
Regards from Perth
Derek
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23rd Oct 2009, 06:44 PM
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Hi Derek
I've been using my 1/2" to cut tenons about 12mm long with 2–3mm shoulders
I find planing to a knife line much easier than sawing at this size. (They go into mortices cut with a 4mm mortice chisel)
The LN mouth is very fine, while the Veritas with it's variable mouth should allow a thicker shaving to be taken with each pass.
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24th Oct 2009, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Lee | Wow, very nice Rob. It looks to me like they're about the same size as your apron plane but I'm guessing they're NX60 sized? |
24th Oct 2009, 10:52 AM
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Hi -
Yes - the size is the smaller format, like the NX60/DX60 planes...and there will be right and left versions, available at the same time... we've just made a few RH ones for final testing. They should be available early in the new year...
Cheers -
Rob
(Just finished scoping out the tools at tomorrow's auction....) |
24th Oct 2009, 11:02 AM
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Rob, I've seen your collection from a post you made in rec.ww years ago and wonder if you buy a new storage shed every auction or rent a hangar to put the stuff in. Whichever, I hope you have everything safe from fire and other nasties, you must have one of the world's better collections. |
27th Oct 2009, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Groggy Rob, I've seen your collection from a post you made in rec.ww years ago and wonder if you buy a new storage shed every auction or rent a hangar to put the stuff in. Whichever, I hope you have everything safe from fire and other nasties, you must have one of the world's better collections. | Hi Groggy -
Well - it's a "decent" collection (just added anoth 35 or so on the weekend) - but it's not really "best" in any area... other than containing the entire Veritas concept and prototype library...
It does have a lot of scope though... there are more than 10,000 inventoried exhibits, not including Veritas (an exhibit could contain 1 item, or 200... i.e. a set of chisels, or a violin makers chest/kit would count as one exhibit).
It is a lot of fun to poke through though....
Cheers -
Rob |
31st Oct 2009, 12:44 AM
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Regarding the other item Rob, I have managed to clear my bench and should have a good play with them over the weekend. | | |
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