Thread: Norris plane

No extensions and no grips here either, also 8 long. Need to look at early lists, late ones only show 10 1/2.

Originally Posted by u_know_nothing

No extensions and no grips here either, also 8 long. Need to look at early lists, late ones only show 10 1/2.

UK N,
interesting user name
Good to see that picture, thanks for posting it...and welcome.
Is that plane in your possession, I would very much appreciate a picture of the front edge of the base to add to this page.
Infill Planes marked "STEEL"

I have a late skew mitre by Mathieson, It has the later capitol italics stamp. I would be very interested to see if yours has the faulty "S" in the stamp that I have on about 8 planes marked with various makers marks. Like the picture at the bottom of this post ( from the page linked above)
Regards,
Peter

It has the bottom stamp.
I read the rubbish on woodnet. The moral of the story is be careful whose advise you take. Some think patent metal planes are steel

Yes, it's a lump of wood and metal designed to remove thin bits of wood from other pieces of wood. The end. A Veritas plane does the job as well or better, costs the equivalent of 19/6 like the Norris did, and will probably have obsessives with not a lot better to do rabbiting on about it in 80 years like this one did. If there's any decent timber left to work in 80 years. FFS!

This link The Norris story puts the standard plane at 18/6 and the Norris at £3.17.6 when the weekly wage was £1.16.0

Not to be obsessive or anything

Paul

Originally Posted by veloaficionado

Yes, it's a lump of wood and metal designed to remove thin bits of wood from other pieces of wood. The end. A Veritas plane does the job as well or better, costs the equivalent of 19/6 like the Norris did, and will probably have obsessives with not a lot better to do rabbiting on about it in 80 years like this one did. If there's any decent timber left to work in 80 years. FFS!

A hypothetical scenario....
you want to see a cat fight....just put a post up in ANY forum, anywhere in world with a diatribe on how useless a Veritas plane is.

YES, you might not believe it but some well informed, and breathtakingly skilful woodworkers have that strongly held opinion. You just won't see it on internet forums.
Go have a search and find out what happens to someone who dares to offer that view.
OR just question the time it takes to get an order filled, or any tiniest problem that could present itself with a transaction with the almighty.


....I have seen something like that in the past, and the bully boy, sycophants can't help themselves.

There are clubs for all folk with different ideas about what a good idea is...one of them is old tool collecting, and specifically infill plane makers of the mid to late 1800s and early 1900s.
Plenty of folk just really are 'INTO' It. some are not....That doesn't mean I can't be!

The club I want to belong to, is one that wants to get as much info as possible about them, want to try and discover who made them, how they made them...and on it goes.

A few night ago I saw an interview on the teev, Dava Sobel, she is the author who, with her book "Longitude" probably started the scientific, technology book publishing explosion to the general public. How many books are now written about lost hand crafts, scientific, and engineering history. It is a exploding genre. How much re-discovery and interest, and participating in the history of tools and their uses is too much?
Some people might call those interested in that aspect of human endeavour "obsessives" well I wear that badge with more than a little pride.

Late in October I have been invited to fly to New Zealand and give a morning and afternoon presentation on tool collecting, why I do it, and present some information to other "obsessives" who are members of the NZ vintage tool collectors club. They have invited me to fly from Melbourne, Australia to Auckland NZ.
NZVTCC
YES...a tool collectors conference, where we share information and discuss collectible old tools. Shocking isn't it ???

Now YOU might dismiss what we do as obsessive, and think we are all just nuts, but that's a misguided opinion...that's my opinion... but then I would think that, I ware the badge of the obsessed!

Regards,
Peter

Originally Posted by veloaficionado

Yes, it's a lump of wood and metal designed to remove thin bits of wood from other pieces of wood. The end. A Veritas plane does the job as well or better, costs the equivalent of 19/6 like the Norris did, and will probably have obsessives with not a lot better to do rabbiting on about it in 80 years like this one did. If there's any decent timber left to work in 80 years. FFS!

Looking at it in this way misses the point.

The Norris is actually the precursor to what you have now. The adjustment mechanism in the veritas is modelled on the one that first appeared in the Norris. Google modern plane builders such as LV and LN . You will see that their owners have immense collections that inform their current builds.

I dont own a Norris . I can appreciate pursuing knowledge and obtaining these planes to further that knowledge.

Peter and others please keep doing what you do so that we on the forum can benefit.

Originally Posted by Pac man

Looking at it in this way misses the point.

The Norris is actually the precursor to what you have now. The adjustment mechanism in the veritas is modelled on the one that first appeared in the Norris. Google modern plane builders such as LV and LN . You will see that their owners have immense collections that inform their current builds.

I dont own a Norris . I can appreciate pursuing knowledge and obtaining these planes to further that knowledge.

Peter and others please keep doing what you do so that we on the forum can benefit.

Pm,
I believe "missing the point" is only part of it.
Read the sub-title for this exact forum...
"This one's for the Dark Siders. Users, collectors and lovers of good old unpowered hand tools." (my emphasis)

If you don't like "collectors of good old unpowered hand tools" and want to go calling them names...unsubscribe....and start your own club.

Why do folk join the MG club, and tell the members the best car ever made was a Jeep, and MGs are just a bucket of steel rubber and bolts...I just don't get what they are on about...go away.

Far too many good contributing, collector forum members, have given up on this forum because of behavior like that.

Regards,
Peter

Cor that's a nice Mathieson plane.

Originally Posted by auscab

Cor that's a nice Mathieson plane.

Don't mention the Scottish play
Cheers,
Jim

Early Norris list. See the text. IMPORTANT - shows STOCK sizes. Other sizes, special order

Originally Posted by Pac man

I dont own a Norris . I can appreciate pursuing knowledge and obtaining these planes to further that knowledge..

I really enjoy some of the research that pops up in these forums. Luckily I'm not into Norrises (old Records are keeping me poor)

veloaficionado is entitled to his opinion - I just don't see how expressing his opinion in that way helps achieve anything... It won't stop people who are interested in things he's not interested in, being interested - it may just drive a few underground - and that benefits who?

Originally Posted by Pac man

Peter and others please keep doing what you do so that we on the forum can benefit.

Hear, hear.

Cheers, Vann.