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  1. #16
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    Thanks Jake!

    Any chance of seeing what's going on on the back of the painting? The stretchers I mean.

    It seems that in the good old days a few sticks of pine slapped together were good enough, now there are all sorts of fancy slip tenons and stuff so the canvas can be stretched after the event.

    I'm not sure that the fancy stuff is necessary, but I'd love to see what he does!

    Welcome back by the way.

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    Welcome back Jake, I for one missed those dirty fingernails quite a bit!

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    Nice post and welcome back.

    All this time away and you still haven't had a pedicure! At least this way, we know it's really you, and not some imposter posing as the 'tripper from Kyogle.

    Cheers,
    GW
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    Welcome back mate, I was away and have missed a lot of the "fuss" but its awesome to have you back.

    regards

    Marios
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    Thanks for the welcome. I'll try and be ..ummm.. diplomatic..straight. that sort of thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    Hey Jake - those are quite spiffy-looking profiles. Crapiata is not the easiest wood for the job, either, with its pronounced growth rings - I'd be searching for good mature Hoop, or White Beech or something grain-less, but you've done a splendid job with it nevertheless.

    I do as few picture frames as possible,(and try to keep to pretty plain profiles when forced into it!) but I know from doing sticking on door frames and suchlike that it's almost impossible to cut perfect matching profiles from board to board with hand tools, so a bit of trimming of the mitres is inevitable. The corner you show in close-up is pretty convincing & no-one else can spot it - even you won't see it after a week!

    Avagooday,
    Thanks Ian.

    I agree on the timber... just it wouldn't have been worth my while if I did. Took ruffly 2-3 hours a frame, and something like $10-15 in timber.....and I was only asking $60 for each frame. (I'd be asking more , except that he's my FIL and he's done plenty of favours for me in the past. I should really have done it for free)

    How much does good hoop cost nowdays anyway ? White beach must cost a fortune. I just don't know. (and where can you get it !)

    I was playing with the idea of making it out of silky oak which I have plenty of. And it be best painted. IMO its too freckled looking to show of profiles well in framing.

    The pine I used wasn't too bad. Found I could pick out the nice stuff from the stack though. Looking for darker coloured straight lined parts. Any stuff resembling thunderstorms, or those little whiter areas with brown flecks in it, and I'd push it aside.

    Midge........I've got no photos of the back sorry mate. But, he's got me lined up to do another 8 frames in a couple of weeks. I'll take a photo then if you like. Think he cuts halving joints for each of the corners, then stretches the canvas over, and holds it there with staples on the side. He likes to stretch his own frames, cause he likes to use quality canvas.

    I make the back of my frame flush with his canvas, and to secure it, I think he just screws on these little plates across the two (some kind of art supply thing) He does all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apricotripper View Post
    How much does good hoop cost nowdays anyway ? White beach must cost a fortune. I just don't know. (and where can you get it !)...
    Jake - haven't had to buy any Hoop for a while, as I got a 1/2 pack of 'shorts' a few years ago that I'm still working through - it cost less than $600 a cube at the time, so a good deal. Would have been ideal for pikkie frames though. I got it through a cabinetmaker acquaintance who's since moved on, mores the pity, as I will be wanting more, soon!

    And white beech? No idea, old salt - I put that in 'cos I thought you might have some lying around - doesn't it grow not far away from the 'Apricotorchard'??

    Agree S.O. would probably not suit with all the 'freckles', as you put it. Though I've seen it used to good effect occasionally, it has to be sparing, alright. I was commenting on your use of crapiata more in admiration, knowing what a bear of a stuff it can be to work with profiling blades, but by selecting carefully as you say, you can get rid of the worst bits. I used some (pretty decent) crapiata once to make architraving for a whole room (well, it wuz only a bathroom, but a BIG one!). The only way to match the rest of the house was to use a couple of old woodies I had. But even what looked like pretty straight grain had all sorts of whorls and direction changes, so it took many curses and a bit of sanding to finish the job - luckily, architraving doesn't have to stand as close scrutiny as picture framing.

    Cheers,
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    $600 a cube sounds excellent. I've yet to have that opportunaty. Envious though. Love planing hoop..........I've gone as far as to strip old VJ's of paint to get to the old hoop. Like the old aged pines. dark goldern smooth timber.

    Plenty of silky oak....gums....cedars generally what I can get through my boss. He's offered me free timber in exchange for a weekend of mill work out at his place. Hoping he's feeling generous and working cedar that day, cause mill work an't easy. anyway......Good talking to you Ian.

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    Hi Jake,

    Really good to see you back

    Those frames are excellent Managed to pick up a #55 a couple of weeks ago. Been looking for one for ages.

    Cheers

    Paul

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    Wacko. Lucky bugger. complete with all the blades as well ?

    Hows things ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apricotripper View Post
    Wacko. Lucky bugger. complete with all the blades as well ?

    Hows things ?
    Here's a pic. Yes it has most of the blades and is in very good condition - reckon I was lucky because it was going for a good price as well. Has a small repair to one of the fences but that's been done very well.

    I'm fine thanks. Hope you are well. Very much missed your posts so it's great to have you back

    Cheers

    Paul

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    She looks brand new Paul. congrats.

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    Good to see you are back Jake (say he who has been back for all of 5 minutes himself).
    You certainly been busier than I have (shedwise).

    Bloody nice work on those frames.
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    Welcome back, Stuart. Nice to have both you blokes around.

    Cheers,
    GW
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