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12th January 2010, 01:04 PM #1
More than one plane of the same type?
While doing laps on the ride-on mower this morning, my mind started to wander, (a more regular occurrence these days) and I pondered whether any woodies have found it useful to keep more than one of a particular type of handplane. For example a couple of smoothers, a couple of jacks etc. I know that some of us have bevel up planes, with extra blades ground at different bevels for different woods and conditions, and I am interested to hear of your experiences in this regard. Perhaps it is easier for you to keep two or more of the same plane, setup differently, for whatever reason.
It will be interesting to hear your responses.
Thanks in advance for sharing.
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
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12th January 2010, 01:07 PM #2
I have a couple od scrubs and a couple of smoothers with the same setups because I find that with our timber I often get a blunt edge halfway through a job and this way I can just change planes, finish the job and then sharpen
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Jeremy
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12th January 2010, 01:36 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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I have heard of this with planing guitar plates to thickness. Apparently ( I haven't done it but it makes sense) you use 2 #4's. One of them you cut notches in the blade, so as you plane you leave behind little raised lines. Then you use a standard blade to just remove those lines. Basically this is a way to make sure you have covered the entire surface evenly.
PeterThe other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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12th January 2010, 01:43 PM #4
Block planes
I have a couple of block planes.
One is setup for rougher work, eg quickly remove a few millimeters of material.
and the other is setup to take super fine shavings to finish small parts.
Regards,
Chris
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12th January 2010, 02:55 PM #5.
I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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12th January 2010, 03:19 PM #6
I have 3 #4 planes.
1 is some unusable rubbish I bought at Bunnings when I first started woodworking, possible one of the worst tools I have ever seen.
I have hidden it at the back of the drawer.
Every so often I take it out and feel good that I now know just how cr@p it is (a $15 lesson well learned), I spent 3 days trying to flatten the sole. I learned a lot, like just how good Luban White's planes are, even the "Boneyard" ones.
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12th January 2010, 03:27 PM #7
Decadence not seen since the court of the Emperor Elagabalus
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Jeremy
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12th January 2010, 03:51 PM #8
What a guy!
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I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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12th January 2010, 09:52 PM #9Senior Member
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Indeed! Make Gaius Caligula look positively pedestrian.
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13th January 2010, 09:34 PM #10Hewer of wood
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IIRC Brent Beach suggests keeping an equiv plane or blade with a fresh edge for the finishing cuts cos the temptation is to try to finish without the interruption of honing.
Same kind of thing's been recommended with router bits.Cheers, Ern
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14th January 2010, 09:56 AM #11
I'm another decadent, but a reformed one. I have two #5s (well, one is a 5 1/2) and two 4s. The 5s are different, I suppose, & I tend to use the 5 1/2 as the real jack, & the 5 for pre-finishing. For more years than I care to try to remember, I had only the 5 and a crappy 4, so I tended to use the 5 for everything, from scrubbing to jointing to smoothing.
I could still use the 5 as my smoother, but a few years ago I had a rush of blood to the head & bought a #4 Clifton. Have to admit, that once fettled & set up to my liking (including making a decent handle to replace the piece of crap it came with!) it does do a superior job, so that is now my finishing plane of choice. The other 4 is relegated to rough work, or to start cleaning up a surface that might have a bit of grit in it, & that sort of thing - that way the goodie is always sharp & fine-set & ready to go. Or so the theory goes, somehow, I frequently end up with 5 dull planes and a half hour of sharpening & resetting ahead of me.
About 15 years ago, I started to accumulate benchplanes. I was looking for a decent older #4 to replace the piece of junk I had - an Australian-made Stanley bought in about 1980 - I just could not get that thing to work well, no matter how much I fettled & fiddled, & it still frustrates & puzzles me exactly why! I quickly developed a problem that whenever I came across an unloved & beaten-up tool I wanted to give it a good home & try to nurse it back to health. Pretty soon, I had a dozen planes or more & it was getting out of hand - I had a very cramped work area & nowhere to keep them, anyway. I got rid of all but the best of the #4s, and for quite a while had 3 bench planes - a 7, my old workhorse 5 and a decent 4.
There are few jobs that couldn't be tackled adequately with one or two of these, and I would have held it there, but I weakened & bought the aforesaid Clifton. Then I inherited the 5 1/2 from my dad, so it HAS to stay, too. I rearranged the toolbox a bit, & they can all snuggle in there ok, so that's where I'm determined to keep it at!
Unless I stumble on something irresistable.....
Cheers,
Addendum. After posting, I remembered the little high-angle smoother I just made. It qualifies as a benchplane, so here I go again - recidivism rears its ugly head. What's that you were saying about our criminal past, Woodwould?IW
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14th January 2010, 10:51 AM #12Hewer of wood
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LOL.
I love planes, not that I use them much ... there's a thrill in the swoosh that produces a fine shaving. What syndrome am I suffering from I wonder.
Like Ian, I went thru a stage of buying and restoring old Stanleys. That occupied many a Sunday when I was confined to home.
But I tired of that and sold most of them. Now just have a 4, a 5, and a 6 with a Hock blade.
I fell in love with Veritas planes and acquired a BU smoother, BU jack and LA block, but still often reach for the 4 Stanley as being light and quick for cleaning up box panels which is the current flatwork interest.Cheers, Ern
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14th January 2010, 02:06 PM #13
There is sonething about planes that is addictive and I am in the finding and cleaning up old plane phase of the sickness now. I got by for years with a 4 a 5 a very cheap block and 2 spokeshaves. This last couple of years I have been picking up quite a few interesting planes and discovered wooden planes are very moreish since I cracked the method of adjusting them. I now have 2 pairs of plane. 1 pair are german style woods with the front horn. One has a rather wide mouth so I use it to get wood off quick and the other takes a real fine shaveing so does the finishing strokes. I have 2 No. 4 planes and I just use these in tandem if one needs a sharpening. I guess I need to rationalise the hoard but it is hard to part with any of them.
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John
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23rd January 2010, 02:17 AM #14Hewer of wood
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(Shuffle, mumble ... just put in a bid for a #7 ... planophilia strikes again).
Cheers, Ern
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23rd January 2010, 11:52 AM #15
Hi Tom
I have a notion that you and I share a similar disease. No matter how many pictures you look at you really never appreciate a particular make or type of plane until you have one in your hands... only then can you answer all those little niggling questions that bounce around in your head late at night.. but then you start to wonder what the next size up looks like
I'm still being tough with myself and sticking to my "one in - one out" rule unless it's a tool that I really can justify adding to the kit because on it's usefulness merits alone (a good shooting plane would apply here). But still I have a few doubles, all bench planes and all because I like playing with them or I have some attachment to them.
I went through my shed last night to see if there was anything I should lose.. a roll call of my doubles.
3 no.4's a V&B 704, a Stanley 604 and a Stiletto (thinking one of these might go)
2 no.4.5's a V&B 4 1/2 and an early Stanley 4 1/2C
2 no.5's a Sargent 714 and a V&B 905
2 no. 5 1/2's (both waiting for a fettling, one will go and one will get a TS blade and stay) an early Stanley and a Union.
2 no.6's a Sargent 718C and an early Stanley no.6
Everything else is singular.
The 7** Sargents are just downright fun to use and are such pretty planes.
The V&B's are my weakness so they stay.
The Bedrocks I only own so visiting woodies don't laugh at me.
The stiletto is just a lovely little plane to use.Best regards, Luban
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