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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    ...My understanding is that fillisters were used specifically for working glazing bars, with the fence bearing on the far side of the piece being stuck...
    My understanding, for whatever that's worth, is that what you're describing is called a "sash" fillester for working window sashes, and a moving fillester (or just fillester) is one where the rebate being cut is on the user side.

    But maybe I'm wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    Perhaps my comment is more controversial- I'm not sure that is a moving fillister, but a regular rebate plane. My understanding is that fillisters were used specifically for working glazing bars, with the fence bearing on the far side of the piece being stuck, & so have the nicker & depth stop on the same side as the fence (see here). It seems that the term has gradually come to be (mis) applied to any wooden rebate plane, so I'm probably just barking at the moon.....
    funny you should say that Ian.
    My dad always referred to his Record #078 as a fillister.
    and on checking teh Record plane site just now I see that "officially" it's referred to as Record No. 078 Duplex Rabbet & Filletster Plane as illustrated in Catalogue No. 15, February 1938 http://www.record-planes.com/record-no-078-duplex-rabbet-filletster-plane/
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    moving fillister plane was used for all rebates which were on the same side as the new edge of the work as in Fig. 5. In some jobs, however, the rebate had to be worked on the far side of the work, but still kept parallel with the near side - for instance, in making sash windows in which the wide glass rebate which occurs at the back of the wood must be made parallel with the front or face side. This brought into being the sash fillister plane which had a fence closing on to the side of the plane and which was held by long arms passing through the body of the plane. The difference between the two kinds of planes is shown clearly in Figs. 5 and 6, and it wiil be seen that, although the fence bears against the face side in both cases, the rebate is worked on opposite edges.An Introduction To Understanding Rebate Planes - Handplane Central


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    2 more Moving Fillister Planes to refurbish.


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    OK, seems like I had that a bit wrong; there are multiple definitions of 'fillister' which all have something to do with sash, either directly or indirectly. But "sash-fillister" seems like the safe bet if you want to define the rarer version of rebate plane, with nicker & depth-stop on the 'inside'.....

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    That's a good bit of advice this projection of the iron I mean. I thought it was my duff technique or the plane I'd bought on ebay was a dud that was producing slanted rebate walls. Having never owned or used on before. Until I happen to catch a post mentioning allowing the iron to project about the thickness of a business card . Voila! Perfect rebates!
    Man can wait long time with open mouth for roast duck to fly in!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by planemaker View Post
    Work on refurbishing this traditional moving fillister plane has been completed.

    Reglued the boxwood wear strips;
    Reworked the irons bed to flat;
    Flattened the sole of the plane;
    Shortened the wedge length at the toe by 1/4";
    Resharpened the iron and nicker;
    Restored the patina to the worked areas of bare wood;
    2 coats of wax;
    Tested the planes performance;









    The planemaker is Griffiths-Norwich. The following covers their history.
    https://www.sgriff.com/planes/griffi...nesandproducts
    I have an identical plane to yours, but I had bought it NOS for a princely sum (about $200), as I'd had many others that were not new and just wanted something from griffiths. As you well know, it doesn't matter if they're NOS, they move over time, and mine needs some attention to the boxing being proud of the plane (but that's all).

    They're wonderful planes to use, and cutting rebates in oak floor mouldings with a metal moving fillister was enough to convince me to sell that plane and keep a couple of these (this one and a hields, similarly constructed).

    This is one where I think a lot of serious hand tool users screw up buying metal planes thinking that they need them for "accuracy" (instead of just marking their rebates, or cutting them slightly less critically perfect if they just need to house something that will be hidden).

    (I wish I hadn't spent $200 on the one that I bought, there's no need for NOS and of the 8 of this type of plane that I've had, the repaired planes are easily as tight as the NOS planes - and I'm sure they'll keep moving over time, anyway. One would wonder why I had 8, but the reason is because I thought for a while that I might like to make half a dozen of these. I still might, but kept my two favorites. Making the hardware for them is a turn-off, and robbing hardware from a still-working plane is not something I'm willing to do)

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    Work on the 2nd of 3 vintage Moving Fillister Planes is close to completion. The replacement sliding fence was made using the original brass hardware.

    middle plane, (prior to refurbishment)






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    Test run with the latest refurbished Moving Fillister Plane. The wood used is Kwila (Merbau). The early W1 iron took a very sharp edge and kept it till the end of the rebate.


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