Thread: The Saw Report

Originally Posted by Berlin

Jeeezuss!

Your Jason Recliner gave birth to a thousand hand saws!

You better write a thesis on saws and saw sharpening in the next 6 month or this is going to start looking like something worthy of an intervention!

Remember, if you're starting to feel the saws are a burden... Don't be a hero. I'm here. You've got my address, just send em over.

This from a man who is going to end up with a suitcase just for carving tools (and self-made planes)

You don't understand.
These saws are like lost little children ... wandering out in the world ... hungry for timber to cut, a warm safe place away from rust and - if they're really lucky - a decent sharpening.

Did Mother Teresa say to the little children "Go away - there is no more room here?" No she did not, I say to you!

There is no problem here ... we have taken in planes before ... and chisels ... now branching out to an orphanage home for lost saws.
(Might see if I can apply for government funding ... )

Indignantly yours,
Paul.


Seriously though - there are some excellent and well-looked after saws here.
Happy dance, happy dance, ...

Some saw-till links:

Back to Back Sawtills by Bob Sturgeon

Bill’s Saw Cabinet by Bill Taggart

Aaron Toney's Homepage: Woodworking: Saw Till

Html & pdf:
The OldTools Saw Till Group Project Page
https://files.me.com/amaxwell/ggzixx

and related problem:
WoodNet Forums: A Handsaw Conundrum

Other ideas:
Re: looking for designs for a sawtill! *LINK* *PIC*
Ugliest sawtill *PIC*
Doh! Let's try this again shall we... *NM* *PIC*

Originally Posted by pmcgee

Hi Andrew.

I am looking at saw tills right now. Maybe convert a caravan.

Great value and variety in saws available in the US.
Many of them I bought sharpened, and I am learning from them already.
There was 18 or 20 in this lot and I wouldn't give back one of them.

This little 16" is the oldest ... about 1860. Minimal clean-up job to do.

Cheers,
Paul

in this lot! how many more lots have you got

better start showing some pics, group pics so we can live vicariously as though we got them ourselfs

Originally Posted by ch!ppy

in this lot! how many more lots have you got

better start showing some pics, group pics so we can live vicariously as though we got them ourselfs

I agree,
Show them!
Or have you become a closet saw addict!

Toby

Originally Posted by ch!ppy

in this lot! how many more lots have you got

better start showing some pics, group pics so we can live vicariously as though we got them ourselfs

There might maybe be one more box to wend back over the seas (WBOtS) to Oz
That will wait on the recharging of the WBOtS fund allocations.

There has been some weather here over the weekend ... winds are up, tree branches are down, nerves are steady ... and there has been a distinct shortage of freshly squeezed electrons

Anywhoos ... some pictures ...

Ok small (panel) saws.

The top seven were here before the big box arrived. Number seven is a Harvey Peace.

The next four are new ... Slack & Sellers, a #7, a Warranted Superior with an interesting aggressive crosscut sharpening, and the 1860s saw.

Miscellaneous.

Two mitre saws I bid on ($10 for the two) before I realised how big they were (28")
A Keystone 107.
Three CE Atkins - 4 saw-nuts - floral, chip carved, and plain.
A Harvey Peace, and a D7 panel saw that I forgot in the previous group.

Congrats on the mitre saws, $10 is a great price unless postage was a killer.
Nice job on the saws

Teens+

A D23, D20, #16, #12, and two D12s.

The #12 sings just picking it up.
It is 12ppi (11tpi), thin blade and very little set.
I will show it cutting and the surface it leaves.

The D12s are 8ppi (7tpi) and a sharp sharp sharp 5.5ppi (4.5tpi).

I haven't got a photo yet, but I used my $10 thumbhole D8 to cut down the edge of the jarrah I used to fit a door for mum's garage. It seemed sharp to me when I got it ... but I've played with it quite a bit. I described it as "9 in 3.7mm at the back and 11 at the front - I guess that's an inch and a half".
So that is 7tpi through to 6tpi.

It took 11min 20sec to cut down the 210mm x 1.5" jarrah, and wasn't feeling super sharp.
This D12 is *very* sharp, and I'll be interested to replicate the same cut in the offcut.

BTW - you can see the (saw-)mania start in slow-mo at these links ... but be warned ... it might be like the japanese movie where you watch the video ...
and the phone rings ...

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/p...ml#post1414252

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/p...5/#post1413721

D8s

The first two I had already ... the first has tinny looking saw-nuts and medallion, the second is Disston-Canada with a dark wood handle.

The third and fourth are 6ppi (5tpi) Disston-Phila.

The last is an over-cleaned PAX 7ppi (6tpi) that I got in Perth last week.

The PAX feels like a wide set to me, and it crosscuts green wood well, where the one above it fits and starts. It might be an interesting comparison between the two because the teeth don't (naively) look very different.

D8 Thumbholes

The top four I had already. Number four is an Atkins (floral) 51.

The fifth is a George Bishop #8.

The next four are quite similar 5ppi (4tpi) "8-in-D" 1896-1917 saws with varying woods used in the handles.

One has no set, and one is set much more to one side - interesting to (try to) us them.

Finally ... checking on the offerings of a certain mad, celebrity ebay saw-doctor ... I found a Buy-It-Now for less than $100 and - after momentary shock and facial slapping - was on to it like a seagull onto a chip, and with about the same degree of dignity and self-restraint.

(The previous three sales then were: a 26" #16 for $300+, 14" xcut + rip tenons for $200+ each, so I was -pleased- )

I was very very keen to see and learn from this saw ... Michael files sloped gullets which have been discussed around the internet ... and has so much experience. I'll will post about it in detail.

You can read all about it -if you dare- here: UGLY SIMONDS No. 371 26" 10PT EXTRA FINE FINISH SAW HAND SHARPENED | eBay

That's it I promise.

Cheers,
Paul.

Hey Paul,
It looks like somebody put a hand saw handle on the 'rusty' mitre saw, have you had time to look at it closely?

Toby

oh my goodness, thats more than i expected , thanks for posting them, looking over them in the next few days will be like a feast and should satisfy my handsaw curiosity for a bit

that guy does seem to get incredible prices, he obviously does a nice job on them and presents them well, so i guess thats why. the disstons seem to really fetch the main money , it must just be people collecting saws go after them more than others, they are well known too, so a safe bet, lots of info and people can have fun dating them and choosing the models easier...

the 371 doesn't look ugly though, looks pretty good, i have quite a few of them and mine don't particularly look any prettier than that so i am not sure what constitutes a good looking 371., i guess they just dont have the same good looks compared to some other saws, i find them a good down to earth saw to work with that i can use all day, i tend to like using the narrow straight back shape particularly in the 7-8ppi range for CC framing work (a larger skew back plate for heavier ripping is my preference), i like the hang of them, its intermediate and the handles arnt a bad fit, they are just a tad on the loose side (oversized), the horns are spaced pretty good (just a fraction big, not enough to bother me much) but the inside grip size is a little roomy (but versatile), like many saws the americans often make them to use with gloves, which might be handy for some..i have never used a saw wearing gloves yet though, even if the temp is down around -1 to 5C , which is about as cold as it gets here first thing on a winter morning, never the less i get along fine with the handle. a good saw! thier usually pretty cheap though, $95 is definately top top dollar for one of them i would think, at least yours has been sharpened ready for use

chippy