Thread: Saw Report 4

Harvey Peace backsaw

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Henry Disston hack or butchers saws ...

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Wheeler Madden & Clemson saw ... a first for me ... and a Disston compass saw

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I can remember buying a set of old split-nut saws ... not thinking much of most of them ... but they have turned out more interesting than I expected, really.

These four have some age to them ... but no mark that I have found ... so they are run-of-the-mill for maybe 1890 if they were English.

Maybe they might be older if they are American, because I don't think they kept using split-nuts like the poms did.

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But the other two had marks and must might both be American makers ... haven't had that before either ...

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EDIT ... well that's what you get for leaping to conclusions. The saws came from the US, so when I saw the Welch & Griffiths/BOSTON - and the GP Preston which I initially assumed to be Edward Preston, and did not otherwise recognise - I took it they must all be US early also-ran saws.

But GP Preston was a Tool Merchant in Sheffield, so I'd suppose they were mostly made in the UK ... just the Boston one being the exception.

"87. A beautiful wheelwrights rounder by VARVILL also marked G P PRESTON TOOLMERCHANT, SHEFFIELD" from a Murland catalogue
http://www.antiquetools.co.uk/Toolshop-Mar-2013.pdf

The Lynx Effect? : Hand Tools - UKworkshop.co.uk

There was a GP Preston saw sold in July on ebay, but the hi-(and lo-)res photos are gone in the ether now.


The Preston one has quite faint the usual 'CAST STEEL WARRANTED' ... and some other letters that I can't make sense of yet ... 'London' would often be there

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For some time now I've been wanting to get hold of a good saw that has been "turned into a piece of art" with sole intention of stripping the paint off and restoring to its former glory and see what kind of response i get from the "artist"

Originally Posted by shedbound

For some time now I've been wanting to get hold of a good saw that has been "turned into a piece of art" with sole intention of stripping the paint off and restoring to its former glory and see what kind of response i get from the "artist"

Got given this by a friend with the comment "You collect old tools don'y you?"

Originally Posted by Doggie

Got given this by a friend with the comment "You collect old tools don'y you?"

I don't mind that ... pretty good effort really.

The 70s and 80s saws can be pretty utilitarian ... even that one-man saw ... and the paint in some ways we can just see as fancy rust-protection

But when I see it on an old saw ... that has its own dignity ...

elegant handle ... possible etch or stamped mark ... maybe a blade that might ring like a bell ... my teeth grit.

Cheers,
Paul

I've got a thing for hardware store-branded saws from the US ... there must have been zillions of them ...

This 28" saw is branded 'Lakeside' and is from the Montgomery-Ward mail-order company

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And two 'reinforced-handle' saws ... which is very much associated with the Harvey Peace/Vulcan Sawworks company ...

A hardware store brand JH Drake & Sons ...

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and then a Vulcan Saw Works branded 'Warranted Superior' saw ...

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A big english Moulson Bros saw compared a full-size D8 ... comparable in the blade ... but the skew-back on the Disston cuts down markedly on the weight.

Very different handles ...

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and a Charles Peace stamped saw ...

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I haven't teased out the very faint etch on this one yet. It has a nib, and an amazing handle.

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A couple of interesting Disstons ...

I'm not sure when I bought this that the etch was part of the description ...

"This Saw is Made Expressly for the Manual Training Schools by Henry Disston & Sons Philadelphia"

It is about 22" long from memory.

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This abbreviated specimen dates back to Henry Disston singular

It is a #7 ... dating about 1850, maybe slightly before.

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Lastly a George Bishop handsaw ... very nice handle ...

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and suspiciously similar to the Diamond Edge saw at the bottom ...

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Think I jumped the gun again ... Diamond Edge was eventually taken over by Disston.
Disston (early) D23-type ... hmmm ... no maybe not.

The middle saw turns out to read Edwards & Walker Co., Portland Maine


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Starting from a guess of Edwards & Watts ... a bit of searching revealed the truth and a bunch of various links.

From ebay ... confirming the correct name ...

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and revealing on the invoice/bill-of-sale ... Established 1876, Incorporated 1893, the bill is dated 1922, and the address of the warehouse/store.

Postcard of the building ...

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A zillion press references from 1947-50 ... All results for Edwards Walker Co in All Collections - MyHeritage

University of Maine, Paul E Taylor collection ...
"34 - Edwards & Walker Company, Portland, ME, illustrated catalog. “Fine Fishing Tackle and Baseball Goods. Guns, Rifles and Ammunition. Wholsale Hardware.” Lakeside Press Co., Portland, ME"

2012 discussion on straight-razors ...
"August and Emil Krusius started business in 1886 in Solingen.
The company was in business until 1983. They had a branch sales office in New York from around 1900 to sometime around 1930.
The company manufactured and sold mid-priced, German made, cutlery, knives, daggers, shears, manicure kits and razors.
The KB Extra trademark was registered in 1901.
Edwards & Walker was a large wholesale hardware distributor in Portland, Maine. They were in business from at least 1905 to at least 1950.
I have read no complaints about the quality of the blades or the shaves. The brand is not rare.
I have a 5/8, full hollow, square point KB Extra 36 that's well made, a good shaver and holds a good edge."
Krusius Brothers straight razor [Archive] - Badger & Blade

and there's a Portland, Maine history fb page ... https://www.facebook.com/PortlandMai...y1786ToPresent

and then a little bit from a genealogy page
"Am searching for Joseph Walker of Dover. NH who married Ella Edwards of Maine in the late 1800's. They are my grandparents.Frank my father was born in 1886 4 Bro. Robert, George, Arthur and Nathan all in Casco or Portland Me. Cleveland family disowned Grandfathers fam. for marrying a native american. Any infor would be appreciated, Thank you, Mary "

and ... unrelated but interesting ... a postcard from England 1907.
"Edwards & Yeoman, Late Walker Smith, 65 Waterloo Street." ... "Wine & Spirit Merchant" ... "National Telephone # 79 V "

How would anyone ever remember their phone number??????

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And finally, proper lastly, ... the top saw which is a bit unusual.

I'm sure there was something in the description when I bought this that explained it, and made sense to me.
I can no longer remember it, or figure it out from scratch.

So the handle has a little extra ... The maker is CE Jennings & Co, New York.

and there is a pocket-knife-ish sort of addition to the handle.

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Very enjoyable and interesting read Paul, have you found out anything about the fold out gizmo on the CE Jennings?

I'm at a loss to even guess what it might be used for?

A quick search on Datamp didn't turn up any patents...

Regards
Ray

[QUOTE=RayG;1723094]
Have you found out anything about the fold out gizmo on the CE Jennings?
I'm at a loss to even guess what it might be used for? /QUOTE]

We came. We saw. We're stonkered!

[QUOTE=Doggie;1723112]

Originally Posted by RayG

Have you found out anything about the fold out gizmo on the CE Jennings?
I'm at a loss to even guess what it might be used for? /QUOTE]

We came. We saw. We're stonkered!

Could it be a sight?? Keep it inline with the tip of the saw to cut straight..Nope it's off set isn't it Forget that…..Saw hanger?