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    Default Two restoration projects coming up

    I just purchased two more planes but these ones are in a rough state and need a lot of TLC to bring them back to life and I am going to likely need some advice from those who have restored old planes before. They are both Stanley planes one is a No 3 and the other is a No 4, I just won the auction for the No 4 today and I am waiting on arrival of the No 3. I will be buying a set of wire brush wheels and emery flap wheels that I can use in my power drill for removing the rust off all the metal parts and will be hand sanding the handles to get all the old paint marks off them will also be using my old oil stone for any lapping of parts that I may need to do

    The No 4. Pics downloaded from the auction that I won my winning bid was $19.50NZ
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    The no 3. Once again pic downloaded from the auction that I won my winning bid was $24NZ for this one

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    Will take and post pics of the planes as they arrive

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    There are two great videos on plane restoration on YouTube.

    One is Paul Sellers and the other is Steve Hay (woodworking masterclass).

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by taz01 View Post
    There are two great videos on plane restoration on YouTube.

    One is Paul Sellers and the other is Steve Hay (woodworking masterclass).

    Regards

    Adam
    I just finished watching the Paul sellers one even though it was lengthy he did it all with sand paper and the side of a chisel which is the kind of ideas I am looking for keeping the tool department simple but effective, Also I was thinking about getting some of this stuff to use when touching up the paintwork on the planes which is a bitumen based sealer that can be mixed with water to make a bitumen based paint https://www.bunnings.co.nz/gripset-b...rane_p00227019

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    It's hard to tell from those sellers photos, but that No.3 might be an earlier USA Stanley plane - going by the frog shape. That bodes well for a better quality plane. If it is USA made then you can use the various websites to work out it's "Type".

    I look forward to more photos of both planes.

    Go easy with the rust removal. The wire brush should be used lightly or you'll take metal off as well as rust. And flapper discs WILL remove metal - you could ruin flat surfaces in seconds.

    Cheers, Vann.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    It's hard to tell from those sellers photos, but that No.3 might be an earlier USA Stanley plane - going by the frog shape. That bodes well for a better quality plane. If it is USA made then you can use the various websites to work out it's "Type".

    I look forward to more photos of both planes.

    Go easy with the rust removal. The wire brush should be used lightly or you'll take metal off as well as rust. And flapper discs WILL remove metal - you could ruin flat surfaces in seconds.

    Cheers, Vann.
    Hi Vann I have decided not to use the wire wheels even though I was going to get some with the wire bristles made from brass and I am now going do it the way I saw it in the peter sellers video on plane restoration and he only used 120 grit sand paper clamped to a flat piece of wood for rust removal and a flat file for deburring edges, last thing I want to do with these old planes is ruin them, I have already been to bunnings to price up a small tin of shellac for redoing the tote and front knob. it is a shame I can not find any asphaltum powder here in New Zealand to mix in with some marine varnish to make a cold japanning paint so will be using rustoleum paint for any repainting of the plane bed if I have to do any painting, I was thinking about using a bitumen based roof sealer mixed with varnish but have read articles against doing it with bitumen roof sealer.

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    Add some progress photos skilsaw. It's will be interesting to follow how you're doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skilsaw View Post
    Hi Vann I have decided not to use the wire wheels even though I was going to get some with the wire bristles made from brass...
    I do use brass bristle wire wheels on restoration projects. I bought a Silverline brass wire cup brush on Trademe for the tables of my table saw, buzzer and bandsaw. It came from UK but was made in China or Taiwan. It was rubbish. Lost all it's bristles in no time.

    Talus, in Levin (who also trade as Dixbro) made up several brass cup brushes for me (special order - minimum 3 brushes) and these are much better. But I think they've been bought out and no longer manufacture in New Zealand (not surprising what with Mitre10 and Bunnings stocking only cheap imports).

    Cheers, Vann.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    I do use brass bristle wire wheels on restoration projects. I bought a Silverline brass wire cup brush on Trademe for the tables of my table saw, buzzer and bandsaw. It came from UK but was made in China or Taiwan. It was rubbish. Lost all it's bristles in no time.

    Talus, in Levin (who also trade as Dixbro) made up several brass cup brushes for me (special order - minimum 3 brushes) and these are much better. But I think they've been bought out and no longer manufacture in New Zealand (not surprising what with Mitre10 and Bunnings stocking only cheap imports).

    Cheers, Vann.
    I am very weary of what I buy from retailers on trademe while I have bought some good quality stuff I have also bought utter garbage I bought my 1/2" makita Mt series router through trademe on afterpay but they were an authorised dealer and guaranteed it not to be parallel imported and that router is a little gem especially when mounted in the triton mk3, I do buy router bits off there but only if they are good quality like Arden, evacut etc but I only buy the types I can not get at bunnings or mitre10 such as tongue and groove sets (the arden tongue and groove sets are beasts), keyhole slot and finger jointing bits. things like brass wire brush wheels probably better off going to a trade supply shop

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    Wel look what just showed up 5 minutes ago the no3 Vann you are right this is a US made plane patent date Apr - 19 - 10. First thing i noticed is a fracture in the tote so i will glue it with some titebond 3 and gently squeeze it closed with an F clamp, the sole and bed of the plane looks to be in good order and may not need a paint job but will get a damn good cleaning with degreaser and water

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    The sole and sides cleaned up pretty good on 80 grit sandpaper, stuck some lines with a marker pen across the sole prior to running it over the sandpaper to pick up any low spots and shes dead flat

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    Handle repair done hopefully that titebond gets it back together as it was actually broken all the way through so i have left the screw in the tote to help keep the break lined up. The chip breaker is also cleaning up pretty good


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    Cap iron and chip breaker done and finished with 000 synthetic steel wool just need to try and get that gunk from around the stanley logo out somehow as i want to put red paint in there to make the brand name stand out

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    You don't mess about do you. You've got it unwrapped and then it's all cleaned up in the blink of an eye. It has come up nice by the look of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treecycle View Post
    You don't mess about do you. You've got it unwrapped and then it's all cleaned up in the blink of an eye. It has come up nice by the look of it.
    Been bored stiff all day we could not work today as it was raining and we can't shift dirt in the rain and we had NZ's largest crawler crane derigging and having parts trucked off site. Oh and i am still going on it while waiting for dinner currently vleaning up the iron then on to the frog.

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    Guys i don't know how well you are going to see this but that cutter iron is one of the ones with the heart that they call a sweetheart I am stoked

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