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    My second favourite plane a veritas shoulder keeps getting fine surface rust on it.
    Righto before you blast me I know "the best way to stop tools rusting is to use them".
    The question is I have tried wax etc still a problem. I have seen in the catalogues camelia oil at the price it must be liquid gold. Is it the answer? I have tried light machine oil but still a problem and need to clean before use. Several threads I can find talk mainly about rust on machines. What do you recon the answer is?
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    G'day,
    Since the recent rain, my electrolysis vat is getting a bit of a work out...but I'm not sure that's the answer to your problem.
    I'll see what everybody else reckons. Following with interest.

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    Yep my veritas 3/4 shoulder plane is rusting too, even my veritas LA block is rusting they've both been coated in wax.
    The funny thing is a stanley 4 1/2 isnt rusting?
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    I had a problem with surface rust for many years until I started using a lanolin spray.
    There are several different brands. The first one I picked up by accident at the mower shop, thinking it was something else (left my glasses at home!). It was in an aerosol can made by/for Briggs and Stratton. It is still available AFAIK
    The second I picked up at the local hardware store and goes by the name INOX -(I think that's it, I'll check in the shed in the morning)
    These work very well and after the propellant evaporates, a thin film of lanolin is left.
    Highly recommended.
    Hope this helps.
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    INOX is the ducks guts for cast table tops and exposed metal around the shed.

    There are several grades of lanolin sprays and the general purpose would be good enough for metal hand tools and the like,it way outlasts all the other sprays I've tried which are just glorified deisel.
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    I've found traditional wax to be useful in helping to prevent rust but once you have it on a tool even if you remove the surface rust for some reason it doesn't seem to slow further rusting down much.

    My first few uses with camelia oil were not good and I also seemed to be going through it pretty quickly. On closer examination I found was I was not applying it properly and leaving areas of tools unprotected. I now spray a small squirt onto a cloth and use the cloth to wipe the tool. I use the same cloth over again and bu now it is impregnated with the stuff and so it goes a long.

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    I have found camelia oil to be effective, as mentioned you need to be sure it is applied to all the surfaces. I also use silverglide, not only for my tablesaw and bandsaw but also on by planes. No rust so far

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    Camelia oil was/is used because it eventually evaporates entirely & does not leave any residue - you can use clove oil too I believe.

    For a more permanent anti rust you need to use something like Silverglide/Silbergleit, Lanolin, Ballistol or one of the U-beaut finishes. To get a stable surface, I use 'Top Saver' from Carb-i-Tool - have to pick some up at the WWW show next month too.

    I keep my planes in LV plane sacks, in a plastic tool box with one of those silica gell bricks. This seems to be keeping the rust at bay - only the occasional finger print.

    As for the Stanley - one possibility is that the cast iron is so micro-porous that the oil is soaking in, then slowly being released to the surface, while the high grade malleable iron LV uses is 'too good'.

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    Thanks for the info on the products everyone, appears a bit of experimentation and care in application is whats needed. bsrlee I think I will get some plane sacks/socks I imagine its a bit of a pain but anything to stop the rust spoiling these great tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m2c1Iw View Post
    My second favourite plane a veritas shoulder keeps getting fine surface rust on it.
    Righto before you blast me I know "the best way to stop tools rusting is to use them".
    The question is I have tried wax etc still a problem. I have seen in the catalogues camelia oil at the price it must be liquid gold. Is it the answer? I have tried light machine oil but still a problem and need to clean before use. Several threads I can find talk mainly about rust on machines. What do you recon the answer is?
    When I was a young snotty nose apprentice in the former SECV. First year apprentices spent the year making their own hand tools, one of the things that we did was to use emery cloth with WD40 to give the tools a final sand down. That was 37 years ago and the tools still do not have a spot of rust on them. Today I use RP7 with a green scouring pad on my planes and it seems to keep the rust away.

    For what its worth simple it works for me, but I am sure there may be some other fancy methods out there.

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    I wonder if POWERCORP or any of the other power reticulators train apprentices in any of the arts???

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post

    I wonder if POWERCORP or any of the other power reticulators train apprentices in any of the arts???
    Not any more no social conscience or responsibility.

    The skills that I learnt in that first year I have been able to transfer to my woodwork, so I suppose that it was not all wasted

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    My Veritas shoulder plane gets only occasional use but i've managed to keep it rust free to date. After use it gets a light wipe with Lanotec and, before being put in a drawer, is wrapped in a cloth that was originally soaked in Lanotec.

    Now I expect I've put the mocker on myself and tomorrow I'll find it rusting.
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    Hi Mike,

    I've been using Inox and/or Ubeaut trad wax on most of my tools. The Inox works really well and you don't get any residue on the timber when using the tools. The traditional wax probably doesn't do much to hold the moisture at bay but it does make the tools slide over the work a lot easier, or in the case of machines the work slide over the tool.

    BTW thanks for the timely reminder, I need to get some more Inox.

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    Supercheap have Inox and another lanolin based spray if you are looking for a source.
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