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    Anybody know if there's a supplier of Naval Jelly in the Deepest South?
    I just used phosphoric acid (dilute solution, apply with brush) and that seems to give a good result.....my 75 cent saw and my tree saw have a way to go but they look like they'll get there.....the big saw will take a lot more work.
    So, for the big stuff.......anyone know where I can get some jelly.....or better still, how to make it?
    We don't know how lucky we are......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted Tenon View Post
    I recently "won" a Stanley No4 plane on ebay. As you can see it was worth every bit of the $5.00 I paid for it. I plan to have a bit of fun doing it up and giving it to one of my brothers as a birthday present in June this year. Yep that's a plastic tote and I think I have the where with all to attempt to make another one. I will need to find a local wood turner who would turn up a new knob. I know it would be easier to just buy a new set from a supplier but this is more interesting.


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    [QUOTE=Hobo;1120896]Navil Jelly is great. It is a rust remover the US Navy developed.
    Does it remove navel lint

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    I'm still getting my head around uploading. I've included the before & after pics just in case I didn't get the originals right.
    I used vinegar & salt and left it over night. I'm not sure if the vinegar would have worked on its own.
    After that some steel wool and fine wet & dry paper with the lanolin oil seemed to do the trick.
    It looks like the plane has seen hard times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted Tenon View Post
    I'm still getting my head around uploading. I've included the before & after pics just in case I didn't get the originals right.
    I used vinegar & salt and left it over night. I'm not sure if the vinegar would have worked on its own.
    After that some steel wool and fine wet & dry paper with the lanolin oil seemed to do the trick.
    It looks like the plane has seen hard times.
    2nd attempt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastiaan56 View Post
    How do you reckon Rust Remover would go on files?

    (apols for the hijack)

    I use cleaning vinegar to clean and sharpen my metal working files ,clean them first with a file card and remove any stubborn pinnigs with a sharp pointed object .
    Immerse the files into the cleaning vinegar and leave for a couple of days .Remove them and wash the scum off , scrub with a nylon brush and warm soapy water to get the black stuff off.
    I then stand the files up and spray with a water dispersant like wd40 or CRC 5-56.
    Wipe them with a cloth to remove the excess crc.

    Kev.
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    Looking good TT.

    Have you checked the sole for flatness?
    Cheers, Ern

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    Thanks Ern. I ran a square over the plate and there appears to be a slight hollow offset to the RHS of the plate. like in the thousands of an inch. It runs for the length of the plate and my guess is that it is so small that it doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodlee View Post
    I use cleaning vinegar to clean and sharpen my metal working files ,clean them first with a file card and remove any stubborn pinnigs with a sharp pointed object .
    Immerse the files into the cleaning vinegar and leave for a couple of days .Remove them and wash the scum off , scrub with a nylon brush and warm soapy water to get the black stuff off.
    I then stand the files up and spray with a water dispersant like wd40 or CRC 5-56.
    Wipe them with a cloth to remove the excess crc.

    Kev.

    Old navel engineer next door says to then rub chalk along the files

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted Tenon View Post
    Thanks Ern. I ran a square over the plate and there appears to be a slight hollow offset to the RHS of the plate. like in the thousands of an inch. It runs for the length of the plate and my guess is that it is so small that it doesn't matter.
    Is the concavity on the front or rear side of the mouth?

    I'm a plane novice but wld guess it might matter if you want shavings of a thou or 2 in fine finishing. Those more expert will be able to advise better.
    Cheers, Ern

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted Tenon View Post
    Thanks Ern. I ran a square over the plate and there appears to be a slight hollow offset to the RHS of the plate. like in the thousands of an inch. It runs for the length of the plate and my guess is that it is so small that it doesn't matter.
    the minimum you need for a functional plane sole are three flat coplanar areas on the sole, one area at the toe, one at the heel and the area across the front of the mouth. the last one is important not only as a bearing point to make the plane start the run positively, but also applies pressure to the area immediately in front of the blade and help prevent breakout of the grain.

    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelinround View Post
    Old navel engineer next door says to then rub chalk along the files
    Did you ask him about the jelly?

    Took me a minute to think why chalk was used, it's for the alkaline to neutralize the Ph, right?.......I was just interested in woodwork, now I'm into metalwork and chemistry....
    We don't know how lucky we are......

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    Tuned in late ..

    ... no one mentioned citric acid?

    Available at supermarkets. A couple of tubs in a bucket of warm water, and leave it for a week. Very safe to handle.

    Regards from Perth

    Derek
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    Hi,

    Since we are talking rust removal.....I had to remove very heavy rust from the way tubes of an old Shopsmith I was restoring. Long, skinny uitems are difficult.

    I picked up a tip that potatoes in water work. More curious than convinced, I put the tubes into a piece of stormwater pipe, filled it up with water and put 2 chopped up potatoes into the tube. I left it 2 weeks and then pulled them out expecting to hear....April Fools day. But I didn't. All that happened was that I hosed off the sludge and gave them a wipe down with a scourer and they were rust free. Incredible!

    Just a warnng on this technique. The only downside is the smell of that water. Seriuosly, it made the dog run to her kennel! It is one of the worst smells I have ever encountered.

    The technique really works if you can overcome the stink.

    Interesting.

    Anthony

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    Tuned in late ..

    ... no one mentioned citric acid?

    Available at supermarkets. A couple of tubs in a bucket of warm water, and leave it for a week. Very safe to handle.

    Regards from Perth

    Derek

    Always thought Lemon Juice or vingigar was citric

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