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HAND TOOLS - UNPOWERED This one's for the Dark Siders. Users, collectors and lovers of good old unpowered hand tools. No screaming motors, no power cords or batteries, just good old fashioned person power.
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8th Feb 2012, 01:47 PM
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| | Stanley 41/2? Hi Guys
My local cash converters have a practically new (no wear, rust, pitting, its straight, and fairly shiny) Stanley 41/2 with a plastic handle (can't be that hard to make a wooden one using the plastic as a guide). They are asking $120, which I thought was a little pricey. I don't have any smoothing planes, so I was thinking that I am better off leaving it and looking elsewhere, but just in case, I thought that I should ask those that know better than me.
What do you think?
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8th Feb 2012, 02:12 PM
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8th Feb 2012, 03:28 PM
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| | As the others said, probably not worth half that price. Wooden totes (i.e. original, not replacements) don't gaurantee a great plane, but they usually indicate it comes from the right era.....
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8th Feb 2012, 04:22 PM
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| | There are two 4 1/2's for sale here in the "for sales" the dearer is one I'm selling, but if you want a decent 4 1/2 at a very reasonable price have a look at the other. However my preference for a first plane is either a #4 or #5 the #4 1/2 is a bit wider and a bit heavier. A link is bailey 4 1/2 plane and the plane a mere $55 | 
8th Feb 2012, 04:32 PM
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| | Wot they said
If it's got plastic handles it's from an era where your chances of striking a good one are low. The older you go the better the chance of striking a good one (even allowing for the wear and tear of age).
And at that price, why risk it (unless you want a nice shiney ornament to sit on a shelf in the shed  ).
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8th Feb 2012, 06:57 PM
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| | I thought as much. Thanks guys. I thought it'd b worth about $60-$70, to which the sales guy nearly had a seizure. Do u think they over paid?!!
I was looking for both a smoother, & something bit smaller than my #7. | 
8th Feb 2012, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by johnredl I thought as much. Thanks guys. I thought it'd b worth about $60-$70, to which the sales guy nearly had a seizure. Do u think they over paid?!!
I was looking for both a smoother, & something bit smaller than my #7. | I rather think they might have - whoever flogged that plane to them must have had a good pitch, and in any case, I don't imagine the average CC clerk is familiar with the arcane world of hand planes. But if I were you, I'd be much more interested in some of the alternatives you've been offered.
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8th Feb 2012, 10:25 PM
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| | I agree with the other comments. Way overpriced!
I bought one on ebay for spares and paid $25. It was so good that I couldn't bear to cannabilise it and kept it!
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12th Feb 2012, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by johnredl I thought it'd b worth about $60-$70, to which the sales guy nearly had a seizure. Do u think they over paid?!!
I was looking for both a smoother, & something bit smaller than my #7. | Considering anyone who knows planes avoids them and anyone who doesn't is more likely to pick up a $20 bunnings one - yes!. If good #4's go for anywhere between $5 and $60, then $120 for a bad one isn't going to work!
What's wrong with a #7 as a smoother?. I was doing chamfers with mine the other day | 
12th Feb 2012, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by andrewr79 Considering anyone who knows planes avoids them and anyone who doesn't is more likely to pick up a $20 bunnings one - yes!. If good #4's go for anywhere between $5 and $60, then $120 for a bad one isn't going to work!
What's wrong with a #7 as a smoother?. I was doing chamfers with mine the other day  | I ended up getting a #4 & #5 from Pac Man. Including postage, I think the price is fairly in line with eBay, maybe a touch more. But at least buying from a forumite should end me with a better, more honest plane then eBay.
About the #7, I'm still learning how to use it. I know that I need something smaller, so I took the opportunity to get both. | 
12th Feb 2012, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewr79 ...
What's wrong with a #7 as a smoother? ...  | I agree. I am using my no 7 more and more and with a sharp blade and fine adjustment it leaves surfaces just as smooth as any other plane. Today I was using it to level and smooth the tops of some drawers that I have been making. The long sole makes it ideal. It is also good for smoothing a panel which you want to keep flat. (It also helps to maintain upper body strength) | 
12th Feb 2012, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by johnredl I ended up getting a #4 & #5 from Pac Man. Including postage, I think the price is fairly in line with eBay, maybe a touch more. But at least buying from a forumite should end me with a better, more honest plane then eBay. | Good choices |  | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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