Thread: new stanley #5 - help to tune

Originally Posted by routermaniac

dave out of interest how much did the surface grinding cost?

Sorry for the delay in replying, I think it was about $60, sad to have to spend so much on a new tool, sure did a great job though.

The #5 I had done only cost me $15 in the first place so I reckoned it was worth it

Cheers

Dave

Originally Posted by apricotripper

Yep , thats what I reakon Luke Skywalker uses,,,,,, a #340 !

No he uses an 8 inch jointer that gets plugged into a wall. You must be thinking of his father, Anakin.......

Originally Posted by davo453

Sorry for the delay in replying, I think it was about $60, sad to have to spend so much on a new tool, sure did a great job though.

The #5 I had done only cost me $15 in the first place so I reckoned it was worth it

Cheers

Dave

cheers dave

Zenwood came around here today and brought his box of planes with him. He has a set anyone would be proud of. We made some shavings on some of the hardwood I got from E.Maculata. This was timber that was tearing out like mad with my stanley. So Zen pulled out his American Stanley I think a number 7 and that ran along it and just cleaned it off so easily. Likewise the Lie Nielsens too. He had a big jointer that was great for the big boards we were working. Later we put a little wax on the no 62 (I told you he had a set) and that really lifted it all up a level again.

Even with these great tools I did notice that the hardwood wore the edges down and so resharpening was something you have to keep up on. All in all a great day. A couple of these higher grade planes are on my wish list now.

Studley

Zenwood wrote:

Guru Patrick Leach of Stanley Blood and Gore, does not subscribe to the view that plane soles must be absolutely flat.

I believe most would agree with this. That is not to say that your plane will be capable of fine shavings if it is banana-shaped. At the same time it is not necessary to flatten the entire sole. For example, my #7 has a slight depression behind the mouth that I have not bothered with. It makes little difference to the plane's performance.

The point is, there are just three critical areas on the plane sole - the toe, the area in front of the mouth, and the heel. These areas must be coplanar. The areas inbetween are of lesser importance. Indeed, Japanese planes are relieved in these areas.

Does a jointer need to be as flat/coplanar as a smoother? Absolutely! While the jointer is not expected to produce the fine shavings of a smoother, it is still expected to support the plane at the mouth to reduce tearout. It is also expected to plane flat - that is, not act like a banana - because its job is to plane flat. Even a jack plane should be coplanar. All planes should be coplanar. It is only in the setting for the size of the mouth that separate their purposes.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Originally Posted by boban

No he uses an 8 inch jointer that gets plugged into a wall. You must be thinking of his father, Anakin.......

Ok,,,,,I'm not really up with this Stars Wars stuff (heaven forbid :eek: ).....isn't his father Darth ? ...You mean Darths names 'Anakin' !!!!! ....Learn something new everyday...... Of all of them I thought Darth would use a machine, since he mostly resembles one ???? ....how ironic ....mmmmmm

So, if Luke luggs around an 8" jointer,,and,,,Darth holds a #340....what does Jabba the hut hold ???

Originally Posted by apricotripper

what does Jabba the hut hold ???

In Spaceballs he was re-named Pizza The Hut so I guess the answer is: cheese, tomato, salami, anchovies etc ....

I believe that Jabba the hut would hold a fatty hamburger and fries ??

Originally Posted by bitingmidge

If I may dare to challenge Patrick Leach by quoting Garrett Hack...

Somebody needs to quote Tage Frid. Surely he said something about plane flateness? What about the Dalai Lama? He's always good for a quote...

I'm betting Hack is perfectly correct.

You're probably right. Hack knows his planes, and uses them all the time. The furring plane certainly was not designed to remove gossamer thin shavings.

Isn't the internet a wonderful place for information?

Information superhighway dude. Cowabunga![/QUOTE]

"Wise men pick their battles"

Sure, I am quoting somebody; can't remember...

Cheers,
Theva

In light of the fantastic amount of replies and quality information I have received on this thread, I will post some pics of the beast. Please bear with me, the photos are from the digi camera in my phone, and I have not posted pics before. I went next door and we used bearing blue on a true surface.
The sole has high spots down one side and behind the mouth; the rest (hopefully) you can see for yourself. I have not included the "lands" that the frog contacts to as it mounts to the body of the plane... thats really scary.
After 30 minutes I am ready to post this reply.... I just learnt to use a few programs and the manage attachment button.... claps please
To those that have replied so far, thanks and if the greenies have not arrived, they are in the post.

whoops - forgot this one

Originally Posted by zenwood

Somebody needs to quote Tage Frid. Surely he said something about plane flateness? What about the Dalai Lama? He's always good for a quote...

Here's a quote from the movie Spaceballs:

Mel Brooks (as the Death Star Commander): Comb the desert!

Starship Troopers (dragging huge comb through the sand): We combed it already and we didn't find sheee-it!

So what if it's got nothing to do with this thread. It's called a hi-jack, man!

Originally Posted by Driver

It's called a hi-jack, man!

IT'S A HIJACK!!!
:eek: :eek: :eek:

You take the posse and head him off at the pass, and I'll take the buckboard into town!!

(John Wayne)

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