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24th November 2011, 02:33 PM #751Hewer of wood
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Peter, can I suggest for the remainder where you have a set that you extend the chipbreaker past the blade edge by a few mm to protect it? If my set is typical, that should work. Matching the edges is not a good idea as the chipbreaker has a burr.
And my advice to all, based on the experience of the pro turner here (and mine with Hock A2 blades), is that you should expect the first few mm of the blade to be soft anyway as a by-product of the heat treatment process. So while grinding out nicks is a pain, it should give you a better edge. And give you some practiceCheers, Ern
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24th November 2011, 03:13 PM #752
That is a very good idea for protecting the edge, Ern.
I only have three M2 blades one of which is an Academy blade but I have not experienced the problem you mention with any of the blades.
Regards
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24th November 2011, 04:06 PM #753Novice
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Thanks, Peter.
I forgot about an extra blade I got from risser. I paid a little extra for a donation, but happy to pay extra.
Thanks again to all involved.
Gumbungle
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24th November 2011, 05:01 PM #754Hewer of wood
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Basilg, I have two Hock A2 blades and got nicks in both in the first few minutes of use. This has been observed by others as well so I was kinda relieved that it wasn't (necessarily) down to ham-fistedness.
As for HSS, 's gone through more quality HSS turning tools than I've had hot lunches so given his experience, I thought it worth a heads-up here.
It may be that the fine mind behind Academy blades is onto this and the prep at source took it into account. Dunno. I'm no metallurgist.
And by rights, a softer edge from source should lead to less nicking along with less durability. Again, dunno; just passing on my experience with a sample of two in a diff. steel alloy so feel free to ignore it.Cheers, Ern
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24th November 2011, 05:30 PM #755
Ern
I think I have misunderstood your comment & thought you were referring to M2 blades. Yes I have experienced similar problems on A2 blades, which I don't favour. I would rather buy O1 steel as a better edged can be produced on 01 steel than on A2. O1 does not hold an edge as well as A2 but as it is a better edge to start with I think this offsets the advantage of A2.
M2 steel IMHO has an edge as good if not better than 01 and holds that edge longer than both O1 and A2. Unfortunately M2 blades are difficult to obtain.
Regards
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24th November 2011, 06:09 PM #756Eschew obfuscation
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Hmm. Another one today. Happy to have it, but don't want to leave you short so someone else misses out. Let me know if you want me to flick you some dollars or return it. More details in the PM.
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24th November 2011, 07:01 PM #757
Beetle, No hang onto it till we see who should have got it. Gumbungle you will get two of each. I don't know who you pay but not me. Maybe risser.
I am learning, slowley.
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24th November 2011, 07:49 PM #758Novice
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Peter
Thanks for the update.
Has anyone else fired up one of these blades in their favourite smoother? Comments?? Piccies???Expressions of awe and wonderment?
Just wondering how these blades are performing.
Cheers, and I really hope everyone enjoys these great blades.
Gumbungle
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24th November 2011, 08:02 PM #759Boucher de Bois
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I've had mine going for a few days...
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/s...ml#post1402268
and
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/s...ml#post1403315
I've got another one in a #4, and am equally impressed!
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24th November 2011, 08:45 PM #760Novice
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24th November 2011, 08:55 PM #761Senior Member
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Peter, I believe the chip in the blade and back iron I received was there before it was packaged, and not something caused by AusPost. The edge was very well protected by two folded layers of hard cardboard with the assembled blade securely taped in place in the cardboard. I cannot imagine the damage was caused in transit.
Chas.
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24th November 2011, 09:26 PM #762
I have been eagerly awaiting for my order to arrive. Sounds like the blades are top-notch.
Have all the orders with known addresses been sent? I presume you have my order details and address. I prefer to send this as a post than a PM (which I have already done numerous times with my order and address details).
This is my personal opinion but I would never never ever order anything else though this system. I am not afraid to say that the whole process has been a complete debacle and very unprofessional. Before someone accepts money from people - they should feel responsible and be committed to seeing it through to the end. I am glad that others have come through to save the day but it was obvious that this needed to be done 6 months ago. Having said this I am happy to make a contribution to any additional postage that the new organiser's may have incurred. Please feel free to PM the amount.
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24th November 2011, 10:17 PM #763
replacement blade concerns
Hi, I received my blade set in the post today and in the past I have always used a stanley blade and chipbreaker with great success. Now to my point at hand, the stanley chipbreaker has the arch in its back to allow pressure when tightened up to the blade and as a result will pull down at the leading end, so as to deflect the chip up and out past the blade and this has always appeared to work. But with these new blades I have noticed when the blade is tightened up to the chipbreaker and due to there being no arch, there appears to be a substantial gap where these two edges meet thus allowing the waste timber to wedge between the blade and the chipbreaker. I have not mounted my set in the plane as of yet but I am almost certain there will be a problem of timber wedging between both pieces of steel. Can anyone confirm or refute this.
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24th November 2011, 10:27 PM #764
Re: The Second Stanley Plane Blade Order
Chip breaker, when the lever cap is on the surfaces should mate quite well.
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24th November 2011, 10:46 PM #765Senior Member
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Mine came yesterday. Did a little work on the edge and it performs beautifully. My thanks to all concerned.
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