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25th July 2017, 09:49 PM #1
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(Stanley?) plane dating.
Anyone an expert on ‘plane dating’.
What I have is:
- A body branded at the back MADE IN ENGLAND behind the handle at the back.
- No 5 behind the knob at the front. No numbers or any other markings on the body.
- STANLEY marked on the lever cap (kidney shaped hole).
- Brass depth adjusting nut.
- Handles appear to be 'dark' stained (not sure if the timber is beech) with steel screws.
One of my main question is did Stanley/Bailey issue ‘unbranded’ bodies? Have I got a real frankenplane here!? This is really just for interest sake as the plane works well. I’ve read a few online spiels but haven’t really got anywhere - lots on the USA types as has been said before.
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25th July 2017, 09:58 PM #2
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I could be wrong but I don't remember them doing unbranded bodies, all the ones I've seen have Stanley or Bailey somewhere on them.
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25th July 2017, 10:44 PM #3
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Found this with google: Stanley English Type Study Draft | TimeTestedTools
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25th July 2017, 11:21 PM #4
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Yeah that's my impression too, Stanley, Bailey or both.
Originally Posted by bueller
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26th July 2017, 12:28 AM #5
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What colour is the japanning on the bed? Pictures also help
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27th July 2017, 09:35 PM #6
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Black, but I suspect it's just been enameled at some point as opposed to the real deal. A few pics attached. Originally Posted by Fergiz01
Plane 1.jpgPlane 2.jpgPlane 3.jpgPlane 4.jpg
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27th July 2017, 10:57 PM #7
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As far as I know any Stanley plane with a 'kidney' shaped cap-iron shouldn't be matched with a non-Ogee shaped frog (as pictured above). And it should have a 'Bailey' as previously mentioned.
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28th July 2017, 12:14 AM #8
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Definately not a Stanley; except for the lever cap! Might be a Footprint?
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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28th July 2017, 03:55 PM #9
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Nice detective work, tiff. I reckon you're on the money.
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28th July 2017, 06:50 PM #10
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I've just donated my old Footprint 5 to a work colleague who's just starting down the slippery slope of woodworking; unfortunately I can't remember what the frog face actually looked like
, and it might be a few weeks before I get to see it again to check. If I could see a side on picture of the tote it would help; as would a close up of the brass adjustment wheel.
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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28th July 2017, 08:56 PM #11
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I think you are correct. Looks like the body and frog are indeed a Footprint just based on online pics, with the lever cap and blade replaced with a Stanley somewhere along the line. Thanks! Frankenplane is confirmed Originally Posted by Chief Tiff
I'll grab some of pics out of interest, that you mention. The only thing I couldn't see online was look-a-like knobs and totes... perhaps they were replacements too.
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28th July 2017, 09:26 PM #12
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Frankenplane definately!
Have had a rethink about the base being a Footprint though; the Google Image searches threw up pictures of ogee-edged frogs just like Stanley type 15's onwards; your frog has the indentations but NOT the ogee shoulders...
The Footprint totes are really thick and are made of beech stained red; also the depth adjuster knob is a solid lump of brass.Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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29th July 2017, 12:03 AM #13
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Hmm... Yeah the knob and tote doesn't match the description. I'm not sure the adjusting knob does either... Maybe parts pulled from everywhere when it was 'restored'.
Adjusting knob.jpg Tote.jpg
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29th July 2017, 12:44 AM #14
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29th July 2017, 12:39 PM #15
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Thanks for the link, informative read. Originally Posted by planemaker
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