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3rd October 2011, 10:11 PM #1GOLD MEMBER
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What Stanley plane type to collect?
Hi,
I'm looking at collecting some Stanley bench planes. I'm not necessarily going to have them all the same type, but I'm more curious as to which types to look out for? From my research I understand they started back in 1867 with the type 1 and 1967 for the last of the type 20. Are there types that are more desirable than other types? Which ones should I stay away from?
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Andy
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4th October 2011, 07:55 AM #3
MP is right about the type 11 being popular.
I think it is because of the low front knob.
I prefer type 12's and through to 15's - the SW planes.
These have the higher front knob - not liked by some - but more importantly they have the large depth adjuster - easier to use - as well as keeping the flat faced solid frog and keyhole lever caps.
I actually like the type 18 depth adjusters with their diagonal knurling. This type often has the thicker base as well.
I don't collect any of these but have some of each in my lineup.
Anything earlier than type 10 does not have the frog adjusting screw.
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4th October 2011, 08:48 AM #4GOLD MEMBER
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Great, thanks for information. I just have to learn to tell the difference between all different types!
What era were the bedrocks?
Andy
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4th October 2011, 10:43 AM #6GOLD MEMBER
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Collecting as users!
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4th October 2011, 10:58 AM #7
Are Bedrocks "better" to use or just rarer?
I can see the benefits of the shape but I am wondering if they are actually better planes.
Chris
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4th October 2011, 11:49 AM #8GOLD MEMBER
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Also should I be looking for US or England Stanleys?
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4th October 2011, 01:25 PM #9
US are the ones to go for if you're a collector.....but just trying to build up a set of English bench planes (and sundry #71, #78 etc) is challenging enough. So I've found.
If, for some reason, you have a preference for England over the USA, you might consider collecting Record planes.....generally superior to English Stanleys.......funny colour, but.
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4th October 2011, 05:31 PM #10
Bedrocks are better (better design of frog support), but are so expensive that you can almost buy a new Bedrock (Lie-Nielsen or Clifton) for the same money.
Originally Posted by groeneaj
Stanley USA began reducing the quality of their planes from the mid 1930s (as seen in the ribbed frog vrs the earlier solid frog). Record copied late 1920s/early 1930s Stanleys (with the solid frog), and continued with that design until the late 1950s. Whereas Stanley UK started manufacturing planes ~1936 based on the Stanley USA design of that time (with ribbed frog). So Record (pre-1960) are considered better that UK Stanleys or post mid-1930s USA Stanleys.
Hope this helps (not confuses)
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4th October 2011, 06:52 PM #11
This will help you come to grips with the Stanley Types:
www.rexmill.com
There are others, but this is the easiest to start off with.
Bedrocks also have types.
You may wish to look at these on Bob Kaune's site:
Stanley Bed Rock Plane Types - Bob Kaune - Antique & Used Tools
Most bedrockers prefer the squared off sided ones as these are easier to adjust the frog.
As Vann has said, sometimes bedrocks are more expensive than new Lie Nielsens, and aren't as good (IMHO)
For example, here is Lie Nielsen's listing for a number 5C:
No. 5 Bench Plane, Corrugation
$360.00
And here is Bob Kaune's listing for a Bedrock 5C
BED ROCK No.605-C JACK. c.1925. Type 7. HANDLE DECAL. Paint=98%. RARE & EXC+ *PIC* 459.95
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4th October 2011, 07:10 PM #12GOLD MEMBER
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Great replies!
Thanks for the links- SO helpful!!
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4th October 2011, 09:01 PM #13
Slightly off the topic of bench planes the stanley 196 circualr rebate plane. It is collectable but not really useful. DC describes it in this post.
Here is mine that i came across in a garage sale. Shame about the nickel plating but it is complete.
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4th October 2011, 10:06 PM #14
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4th October 2011, 10:59 PM #15
Major what do you see as the main benefits of the corrugated type
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