Thread: A tale of 2 saws

John so thats what bag I saw you two digging into (just as I went AWOL into Brets stock of plastic creates).

Looks interesting resto on both hope to follow to the end.

Q what are you using with sanding as a fluid or is it just sanding? I usually spray with WD40 or use turps being oily.

What the hell is going on with the teeth on the cross-cut?!

Looking forward to seeing the results

Quick answer to questions so far. I am using WD40. I let it soak in about as long as a cup of tea takes then I used 240 grit followed by 400 and a final scrub with green pot scourer. I try not to use anything too rough but after scrapeing there was still a long way to go on both.
The teeth on the crosscut have been filed down to the bottom of the deep gullets so the gullets have sort of been lost. It should be 3 teeth and a gullet and so on. Of the 2 saws I think it will be the easy one to fix. I will need to find a round file of the desired size or perhaps drill holes to define the bottom of the gullets. Something to think on.
Regards
John

I've used an angle-grinder and a light touch to sharpen a 1" bandsaw blade on the machine ... it might be an idea for forming gullets if you want to remove a fair bit of material.

Lot of good info out there:
One man 3' Cross cut saw

http://www.bchmt.org/esbch/Cross%20Cut%20Saw.pdf
05232320 - Forest Service Publications - Publications - Recreational Trails - Environment - FHWA

My Tools #4: A new handle for my 3' crosscut saw - by Gary Fixler @ LumberJocks.com ~ woodworking community
Green Cascadia: Let's Sharpen a Crosscut Saw

Off Topic Crosscut Saw Threadcrosscutsawyer.com • Index page

Cheers,
Paul

Wow. Whole DVD online ... The Crosscut Saw Filer DVD by Warren Miller

Thanks Paul!

From their I found some great pics.

Crosscut Saw Gallery Photo Gallery by bchw at pbase.com

Homemade Swaging Hammer Photo Gallery by bchw at pbase.com

Toby

And thank you. Good pics.

I found new links in that lot ... I feel like I'm starting to get some understanding of how these are supposed to work now.

And one thing - it appears that the crown/breast on these saws might be very much to do with maximising ground clearance next to the log you are sawing.
Not clear (to me) that there is any connection back to any crowning you might get on a handsaw.

Cheers,
Paul

Green wood ... very cool ...

Heh heh heh ...

There's a lot of good stuff on the reference page. I haven't checked all of it yet.

http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/Cros...Sharpening.htm

Toby

Thanks for all the links. There is a lot to learn here. Lucky this one is a simple tooth pattern. I dont think I would like to tackle one of those peg tooth things. This project is looking bigger all the time.
Regards
John

You're a brave man John. Looks like a lot of work.
Will be watching closely to see the outcome of this refurb.

Great to meet you on Sunday as well.

Thank You John.....
Some background, the saws came from my father-in-law, Bob's workshop.
Bob did his trade as a "coach builder" on the railways in Sydney before moving to Bathurst, but the old saws have moved from there to Cromer to Allambie to Tuncurry to Taree then finally to my place after he died.
I'm no carpenter at all so just stored them as they came to me from Bob's workshop.
The tenon saw which John is having a go at, John said with the tapered blade could be from 1920's; so was older than Bob who lived from early 1930's to 2005.
Anyways, THANK YOU to John who thanks to the GTG I found out only lives 10mins away.
Cheers, crowie

A bit more on the 2 saws. crowie's one has had a clean up and is ready to sharpen. I am not game to mess with the spine as this is beyond my experience so I wont make things worse. See how it cuts when sharpened.
The big beastie is letting me know its a bigger job than I first thought. I jointed it to get an idea of the stste of things. Usually jointing only takes a few strokes with a file bit I was at this for about half an hour. I just kept going until I had some shine on all the teeth. Should give me a reference line to guage the depth of the gullets. I am thinking it may be easiest to mark centers, drill holes then saw down to them with a hacksaw. There are 23 gullets and that would be a lot of file work even before sharpening. Apart from that it is 4 tpi. I tried out my saw set on 2 end teeth and that works even on that thick plate. So as a break from the metal side I started on a cherry handle.
Some pics
Regards
John

Looking good John. That Cherry handle looks like it'll be noice.

I wish I had known on Sunday you were about to embark on this - I've got some dedicated Handle Maker's Rasps here. They are 6" half round, and the flat side is safe (unstitched). They have a nice concave curve on the half-round side. See here. Let me know if you'd like to borrow them. I could come down for a spin with the rasps and some files.

Cheers
Brett