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    it didn't cross my mind that it might be anything other than the 'cypress' I'm used to thinking of as cypress.

    It sounds like a nice stick
    ...I'll just make the other bits smaller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin62 View Post
    ...At the back of my mind is the feeling that while doubling the width of a blade will require double the effort for a similar depth cut, I'm less certain that doubling the depth of a cut will require double the effort at the same width. In other words, I think going with deeper narrow cuts, you'll remove more stock for the same effort than going wide and shallow. I have no intention of proving this experimentally though...
    Colin - have to admit I was going on 'logic'. It seems to me that the effort involved must increase if you take out more wood, but whether there is a direct & linear relationship, only a careful empirical study could confirm. But take heart, the effort required by that curved blade cutting at 45* across the grain is surprisingly small, so doubling the effort off a small base-load may not be a game stopper. You have a lot of control over how much wood you remove & how much effort is needed by the radius of blade curvature & how much protrusion you give it. The 75mm radius curve worked well on my modified #4, and since they are the same width as the 5, that's as good a place as any to start. If you find it isn't aggressive enough for your likings, just decrease the radius a bit until you're satisfied.

    When I first converted my old 4, it was obvious that curve was going to require much more blade exposure beyond the straight cap-iron, & I feared it would cause severe chatter, particularly as I was using a (very worn) original, wafer-thin Stanley blade. In fact, it worked much better than I expected, even hogging into quite hard wood. Yesterday, I was using it to clean up some rough old recycled Spotted gum (Corymbia maculata), which folks over this side of the water will know is a pretty tough customer, and the #4 was doing a perfectly good job. I used the oldie because I wasn't sure my de-nailing was perfect, & I thought the thin blade was easier to regrind than the thicker Veritas blade, but I started to wonder why I'd spent all that money on the Veritas....

    If you like large handles, the Veritas is for you - I hate those hoe-handles Mr. Lee puts on his planes. Mine was very promptly replaced with woodwork that looks & feels like something I want to hold onto....
    scrub mods.jpg

    Cheers,
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    I like large handles, well large enough to be comfortable, but I think Veritas aren't doing themselves any favours with those ugly handles. Large doesn't need to be ugly does it?

    I really like the look of yours, even if some snooty tool collector is probably going to pass it by in 100 years time.

    Perhaps if I get the Veritas, but make myself new handles, that will fulfill the dual functions of getting me a shiny new toytool while still giving me the satisfaction of having made part of it myself. I think I need to wait and see what happens with the auction of berg chisels that I'm following - if I have to stretch a bit financially for those, then it'll be a regrind on the #5's blade and some fiddling with the frog. If I get them cheaply, I might splash out on a Veritas. I wonder how well that piece of Snake Bean will work for a new tote and knob?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin62 View Post
    I found this interesting



    That quote is from post #20 in the link that pmcgee posted earlier choosing a scrub plane (german planes expert needed) - Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum
    So I'm buying from the german ebay. The scrub plane is called there a schrupphobel.

    A schrupphobel would work much better than a scrub plane !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin62 View Post
    I like large handles, well large enough to be comfortable, but I think Veritas aren't doing themselves any favours with those ugly handles. Large doesn't need to be ugly does it?
    Agreed, they are distinctly FUGLY to my eyes! Surely it wouldn't add much as a % of the price to do something that looks like it belongs on a high-priced tool. But a few years back, when some of us were making a song & dance about the too-upright angle of the rear totes, a few people rushed to defend them. And Rob Lee reckoned they'd done lots of research, & this was the preferred shape & size. All those big beefy lumberjacks up in the frozen North, I suppose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin62 View Post
    ..I really like the look of yours, even if some snooty tool collector is probably going to pass it by in 100 years time. ...
    That's ok - they will be cheaper for the blokes who want users...
    But who knows, they might pay even more for a genuine 'craftsman-modified' tool..

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by GraemeCook View Post
    A schrupphobel would work much better than a scrub plane !
    It certainly sounds more fun to work with, and with that German work ethic, who knows...

    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    But who knows, they might pay even more for a genuine 'craftsman-modified' tool..
    Surely you mean "Enhanced by a boutique tool maker"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin62 View Post
    ......Surely you mean "Enhanced by a boutique tool maker"?

    I was trying not to be too smug....

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by GraemeCook View Post
    A schrupphobel would work much better than a scrub plane !
    Mine cost 5 euro on ebay so it wouldn't really matter if it worked better or not Get one for each hand.
    ...I'll just make the other bits smaller.

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    Why not a Carter?
    Or are you all too wimpy to push one.
    Seriously why did they ever make them so wide.
    Guess they were for Oregon etc certainly not any local timber.
    They did another weird one when they copied the 54 rather than a 50.
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    I dunno about that ... I have a C10 and I have called it the #8 of scrub planes before.

    In attempting to get a workbench together, I had some sinewy-concretey hard wood that had been industrially painted ... damn near enamelled.
    I eventually clicked to paint-stripper as step 1, but the heft of the C10 helped plow through the remaining surface.

    And I used it after an electric planer and an old jointer/trying plane to level a half power-pole section that is still yet to become an oversized sawbench.
    I fact I think it might be better for the tough hardwoods than the Stanleys.
    There are a couple links discussing why it was created in this post ...
    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f213/o...ml#post1643043

    Cheers,
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    Meanwhile I am quietly kicking myself. I missed a Stanley #40 on ebay. I had it on my watchlist, but never got the usual email notification, and it went for about half the going rate. The good news is that I found an old Record #5 that I bought as part of a job lot a while back. Guess what I'm planning to do with it?

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