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18th October 2018, 07:43 PM #1
New saw till
It’s been a while since I’ve been on this forum and about the same amount of time since I’ve been in my workshop. I’ve since had some time to dedicate to my hobby and decided it’s time to start re-organising my workshop. My collection of handsaws has been a bug bear and although I’ve not had an opportunity to restore and use them (IanW, I promise I will after your valued instructions!) I decided to create a saw till to store them correctly.
The timber was sourced from recycled wardrobes and bed heads and I decided to preserve the carving as a reminder of where the timber came from. This is also the 3rd time I've created a dovetail joint so I'm quite happy with the outcome. I was a little overzealous with some parts but I've recognised my mistakes and the next will be better.
Given QLD is such a humid place I do plan on adding doors to the cabinet but couldn’t wait to show off what I’d done so far.
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Stay tuned for the doors!
Regards,
Denim
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18th October 2018, 10:56 PM #2
Looking good. Saws deserve a good home.
Regards
John
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19th October 2018, 09:09 AM #3
Denim
Good to see that you have chosen such a wonderful subject for your "comeback," but I have to tell you that if you wish me to keep watching the progress you are going to have to show the saws at some point!
Having said that, the till is looking good.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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19th October 2018, 09:50 AM #4
I'll dust them off this weekend for a show 'n' tell.
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19th October 2018, 10:13 AM #5
Yep, looking good Den - but get on with those doors, Summer is a-comin' in!
I really need a new till myself, the one I made several years ago is woefully inadequate. Trouble is, I have so little wall space left in my shed, at least not close to the bench where I need it. Wish they'd hurry up & perfect the Tardis technology - wouldn't it be luverly to have a half-acre of space inside something the size of a phone booth!
Cheers,IW
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19th October 2018, 11:28 AM #6
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21st October 2018, 05:08 PM #7
As requested, here is my collection after a dust off and an oil down. They do need a sand, polish and sharpen to get them into a usable state.
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The Tyzack & Son dovetail saw has a really good weight and the handle is a good fit but a little too thick. I'll be using this as an example for new open handles in the future.
The Jackson I inherited from my grandfather.
The Lewis & Co I really enjoy using. It had a great balance and weight to it.
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These two Disston's I received from my Dad who scrounged them from somewhere.
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I got the top Disston panel saw from my Dad. I think the end may have been cut off?
The Warranted Superior panel saw I inherited from my grandfather.
The Mitre saw was purchased along with its base for $25 about 3 years ago.
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I picked up these two for $20 each over the last couple of years.
There you go, my saw show 'n' tell. I don't know much more than that about the saws but in time I'll clean them up, and start to use them in my shop. I also have a small supply of saw plate, brass and saw nuts stashed away from the last group buy for my planned saw build so big things to come (I hope... ).
Regards,
Denim
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21st October 2018, 10:29 PM #8
I added a French cleat to the back of the till this evening and mounted the cabinet on the wall to get it and the saws out of my way while I get on with the doors.
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22nd October 2018, 09:56 AM #9
Denim
I must begin by pointing out that I am wearing my freshly, dry-cleaned charlatan's hat here as the British saws are not really an area I have had much to do with in the past. However I do have the assistance of Simon Barley's book on British sawmakers. So I have a little information for you:
The Tyzac family were split into two distinct groups (no, not men and women) with one branch based in Sheffield and the other in London. Your saw appears to be from Sidney Tyzac and in the shoreditch end of London (Postcode would have been EC.) Barley limits their saw production to quite a narrow time frame between 1905 and 1913. There is an identical back to yours shown in his book and is estimated c.1910. It had the same address at 345 Old St and refers to "silver steel." The handle looks to be in superb condition and is one of the better looking Beech handles I have seen both in style and figure. The massive back looks out of proportion, but as I have said elsewhere, the Brits liked their backs bold and brassy.
The Jackson was made by Disston and was a secondary line, but I would not let that worry you for a single moment as I am sure it will do everything you want and again it looks to be in good nick.
The Lewis may be quite uncommon. There is only the briefest entry in Barley's book and he points out that they were listed as edge tool makers for a few years but only a single year (1913) as a maker of saws. Having said that there is an identical stamp to your saw and it is estimated to be c. 1910! It looks to be a very tidy saw. Interesting to see the difference in the British Beech with the prominent medullary rays and compare to the bland appearance of the American Beech timber. The Jackson saws were made over a long period of time and I have no way of estimating the era. The back was probably blued originally.
I think the two Disston saws have "phila" on the medallion, but it is a little difficult to see. That would place them 1917 - 1940. I notice that the hang angle of the handles is quite different.
The saws in the third picture while not being remarkable in any way I am sure would be very serviceable and the mitre saw you should definitely restore for use in the mitre box.
The last two saws look like the ubiquitous Disston D8 or D-8 (the later model post 1928). I see that the top saw has a partial etch so you may be able to discern the model number (it should be inside the "keystone") and I think both feature "phila" on the medallion. The Disston etches seem to survive fairly well so you may be able to pick up more detail. You can clean up the etch area with W&D paper wrapped around a small hardwood block. Use lubricant of your choice. Turps, metho, WD40 etc. I use water but be sure to dry off the surface very well and absolutely immediately or the rust process will happen before your eyes.
Interesting group of saws and the saw till looks to be up there with them
Regards
PaulLast edited by Bushmiller; 22nd October 2018 at 12:02 PM. Reason: deleted unnecessary comment
Bushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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22nd October 2018, 01:28 PM #10
Thank you so much for the information about the saws Paul. It was a greater response than I was expecting and I appreciate the time you've taken to investigate.
I'm even more proud of my little collection now.
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22nd October 2018, 09:00 PM #11
Denim
You're welcome. I have to add the caveat that I am not infallible so if somebody has better or more information they should certainly post it.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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