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28th October 2017, 11:15 AM #31GOLD MEMBER
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I'd be careful with this. My uncle has been a woodworker for 30+ years and this is the tool (it was actually a Lancelot, which, admittedly, is different) that took part of his finger off. You're taking a dangerout tool (angle grinder) and putting something on it that's more difficult to control and more damaging if it gets you.
Just something I felt needed to be said.
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28th October 2017, 12:00 PM #32
Correct Paul.
The choice of tool generally comes down to a preference for working with hands or power. There is no doubt that power can be cheaper and easier if done with an angle grinder and sanding disk. Small grinders may be had for $50. The downside is they are noisy and dusty, and one must take precautions to guard lungs and ears.
Going down the hand tool route is quiet and more relaxing. However, it requires more gear, some of which may be cheap - such as a shoemaker's spokeshave. These are available in different curvitures, and can replace all the other hand tools. I don't think that Peter Galbert sells travishers any longer. However his protege Claire Minihan does and, better still for those with a go-for-it attitude, she has a video on building spokeshaves and travishers (for Peter's design). This is sold by Popular Woodworking magazine, and may be downloaded. I have it and plan to build a couple of travishers in the near future. Perhaps I'll make a pictorial and post it here. The point is, that hand tools can be shop made, and this is a great learning experience on top of acquiring the good tools.
Regards from Perth
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28th October 2017, 12:22 PM #33
Derek
I don't disagree with anything you have said. I was merely offering an alternative and particularly taking into consideration the constraints of time, budget and existing skills, which may indeed be far more than I have imagined. The first two, time and budget are the major hurdles. Of course as more elderly woodworkers (not me naturally, just you old blokes ) we are not limited by those constraints to anywhere near the same extent. In fact we are far removed from such a place.
I will be interested to see which track is taken.
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PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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28th October 2017, 12:33 PM #34Deceased
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I think Paul is correct as Amanda's tools are very limited as she only has a couple of bench planes, a drill, jigsaw, random orbital sander and a trim router.
From reading her post I assume that she is making only one chair and with limited tools, space and finance so I wonder if a forum member can lend her the tools to make this chair. Surely someone has these wonderful tools that are needed.
Ideally someone local can help her, not only with the tool but show her how to use it .Unfortunately I can not help her as I don't make chairs, only repaired too many of them, but I know that there are local forum members that make chairs and I'm sure many have various spoke shaves etc that can be used as well.
So let's help rather then pontificate.
Peter.
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28th October 2017, 12:34 PM #35
Luke
That is a good point. I have a work colleague who is missing his little finger as a result of an accident with an angle grinder ( with a circular saw blade in it and that is a very poor application for an angle grinder).
Something I should have mentioned is that the side handle should also be attached as far more control can be applied in my view. It is an indicator however that the sanding disc does not throw the machine around much. The sanding disc can give an unpleasant abrasion should it contact skin but at least it will not remove a finger.
The sanding discs are a lot cheaper than the two carbide impregnated carving discs previously mentioned.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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28th October 2017, 12:57 PM #36
Just reading Peter's post I became aware that Amanda has posted information about her situation on another thread so rather than have to repeat herself, this is the thread
Uni Student Setting up a small Wood-Working shop
Clearly, Amanda is a little mor involved in woodworking than I, at least , first thought.
I also took a comment from Dibbers out of that thread:
"While opinions on forums are valuable and should be considered, i think it's important not to feel like its the only way of doing things."
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PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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28th October 2017, 05:49 PM #37SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi Paul
I couldn’t agree more, I own and use plenty of power tools too, so I hope my gentle teasing didn’t come across as sanctimonious. I thought your post was a lot more helpful for Amanda than much of the discussion that preceded it, which while educational and interesting probably wasn’t going to be the route she chose.
I hope she come back and tells us how she did it in the end, and shows us how it turned out.
Cheers
Colin
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28th October 2017, 07:38 PM #38
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7th November 2017, 10:49 PM #39Novice
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Hi Everyone,
I'm sorry for my lack of presence recently as uni has been extremely chaotic. First of all, I want to just say thank you to everyone as I am honestly so overwhelmed with the amount of help and responses from everyone, its incredible. I had no idea how helpful this would be as i'm still fairly new to this whole forum thing and i'm so glad I took the initiative to ask. I ended up getting my scoop done, for those interested I attempted to use the Luban carving spoon which honestly wasn't great (not sure if this was because I didn't exactly know how to use it) in the end I ended up using my router and sanded it down. It was a very simple design just a circular dent. Ill post some photos of my final stool design which I finished for my furniture elective for those interested. Thank you all so so so much again for all your help again!
P.s Unfortunately, these photos are coming out strangely and i'm not quite sure how to rotate them so im sorry for that hopefully when i post this they fix themselves
Kind Regards,
Amanda
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7th November 2017, 11:00 PM #40
Amanda, that is very nice work! Your designs?
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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8th November 2017, 11:19 AM #41Novice
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Thanks so much Derek, i'm pretty pleased with the outcome for my first real furniture piece. Yup, both the stool and table were made for my furniture elective and are both my design
Kind Regards,
Amanda
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8th November 2017, 01:22 PM #42
Very nice work, Amanda
Can you post a few more photos of your table?regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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8th November 2017, 01:55 PM #43
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11th November 2017, 10:14 PM #44Novice
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Thanks Ian! Here are some more photos of the table and stool if you'd like.
My Table was made before my stool and was my first real furniture piece i've made, as you can tell the joinery isn't perfect but it definitely improved when I made my stool woo! My table was made out of American black walnut with Tasmanian oak accents (dowels) and the stool was purely made out of Tasmanian oak.
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12th November 2017, 06:52 AM #45
Amanda
I'm really impressed by both the simplicity and visual impact of your design.
The stool and desk go together very well.
if you can keep to that standard I think you have a good future in the industryregards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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