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15th April 2018, 12:58 PM #1GOLD MEMBER
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New Veritas Micro Adjust Marking Gauge
Found that I wanted a third marking gauge to make things a bit more efficient whilst marking out mortise and tenon joints so picked up one of the new Veritas micro adjust gauges. So far seems very nice and the micro adjust is way better than their previous offering which I never liked much.
Also made a quick box to house them.
I feel that 1 mortise and 2 regular gauges should make things go quicker/smoother. Thoughts on optimal number of gauges?
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15th April 2018, 01:24 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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15th April 2018, 01:37 PM #3
The accidental leaving of your Very Nice Tools in the background is quite.... Nice 🤣🤣
I do like your box. It's neato.
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15th April 2018, 03:07 PM #4
That is a very nice box you've made for the gauges! Thank you for sharing it and the concept
On a side note, I am increasingly getting annoyed by local purveyors of overseas tools, and the Veritas Micro Adjust marking gauge is a prime example of this.
If you look on the Internet, you'll find a place in Australia that sells them, except that the bar that comes with the only Micro Adjust option here is an unmarked one (I actually went into one of their stores to check, but I'd be happy to be corrected if I'm wrong).
If you look on the Lee Valley site, it's like "Do you want plain, metric or imperial with that sir?": Veritas® Wheel Marking Gauges - Lee Valley Tools
Why can't we seem to get this level of choice over here (I could understand if imperial options weren't readily available, but metric should be a no brainer?)
Needless to say, considering this is the first marking gauge I'm buying, I can't offer insight into how many are ideal, I am simply pleased to be able to add one to my collection of nothing so far
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15th April 2018, 03:16 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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15th April 2018, 05:46 PM #6
The types of marker or cutter in them means I like more than two. The slicing kind of blade is just OK at slicing but great at fine marking most people find , except if the grain on an edge is running and the blade wants to follow it off . A pointed marker tears a little across the grain so the slicer is better there. If the fineness of a slicer were never needed then just two should be fine but three is better . Nothing worse that being set up for marking out a carcase that has tails and pins where two sets do and then you need another for marking say the dovetail depth of drawer rails . Changing a setting that you have to go back to is no fun when you get a kick out of being efficient with time . Then there is always one I keep by the lathe as well, for finding centers quickly . Ive never got around to a more efficient method there yet. I did see a good solution a while back though , think I saved it . Basically I have three on my bench but a few in tool boxes picked up along the way for other reasons as well .
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I forgot they had the roller type blade . Another reason they are nice . I have another type with that. Something with a long pointed marker comes in handy for rougher marking work at times.
BTW nice box and gauges.
Rob
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15th April 2018, 08:19 PM #7
"Optimal" will be a moving target, Dom. I do like to have a few, though....
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15th April 2018, 10:05 PM #8
Amateurs!
Dom, that is a very nice box. I do make similar ones for some chisel collections, but not marking tools. They just either hang off the wall or in the racks behind the bench ...
I do have a few but I have made about a third.
Japanese cutting gauges are just the best. They cut deeply when deep is needed, such as end grain. Wheel gauges are perfect for delicate scoring, such as dovetails. (my rationalisation ).
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15th April 2018, 10:19 PM #9
Geez Midnight man, wish you hadn't included that link.... When I visited it reminded me there are 5 things in my cart.... Tops!
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15th April 2018, 10:36 PM #11GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Cava,
Maybe I was a little harsh. I never liked the micro adjust feature on the older gauge much, it just wasn't that intuitive and I often found myself undoing or doing up the wrong part first. Otherwise it was fine; although I never really used the graduations either. Turning the small micro adjust knurled knob at the end of the new one just seems simpler and has a finer thread.
Also, the brass head on the new one is cam-shaped like the mortise gauge so it doesn't roll on the bench and provides better registration due to a larger surface area below the rod.
Cheers, Dom
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15th April 2018, 10:42 PM #12GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Derek, I didn't realise it at the time but I did see a chisel box a while ago on google images that was the inspiration for my marking gauge and marking knife boxes and now realise that it was yours! So thanks for the inspiration. This box, as the last one, was primarily an excuse to cut some more dovetails and make a box in the process of getting more practise. I had intended on keeping the gauges in a wall hanging tool cabinet I still plan to build but I may as well leave them in their new home now.
That is a lot of marking gauges! Maybe closer to the real optimal number haha.
Cheers, Dom
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15th April 2018, 11:20 PM #13
Thanks George. That is one of the gauges I made.
Initially, it was going to be a double wheel mortice gauge ...
but I decided that this style of mortice gauge does not work well enough, and converted it to a single cutter.
The problem with wheel gauges on end grain is that they do not leave a deep enough line to see clearly. Pin gauges or knife are better when marking tenons. I did design a fixed double cutter gauge for mortice and tenons ...
These two gauges are here: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMad...ingGauges.html
Regards from Perth
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15th April 2018, 11:22 PM #14Visit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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