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    Found a moment to make something that I've been meaning to make for ages, a stair/trench saw to go with the dovetail plane. It's on the small side for my hands at 20mm thick but that's the piece of wood I had (casurina sp.). I had the blade and nuts but had to resharpen the blade cross cut. It takes a good bite and takes a bit of practice to cut to the line but I think I'll get the hang of it.

    The blade projection ranges from 7mm to 20mm which hopefully will cover most scenarios.

    This is my first trial blind tapered sliding DT.
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    ...I'll just make the other bits smaller.

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    Well it looks the part, & obviously works, Matt!

    I see you kept the tooth line straight. I rounded-off the toe on mine a bit (is that 'breasting', or 'nosing'?). Whatever the anatomical reference, the idea is to make starting easier, & reduce catching. Of course I can't cut full-depth to the end of a blind cut, but this is easily cleaned up with chisels. The main problem with saws like these, which are 'trapped' in a blind kerf is clearing sawdust, and I've been toying with the idea of adding a more exaggerated breasting, similar to a veneer saw, but that complicates getting the depth even. The best solution I can think of is to curve the body of the saw & cut the teeth at a complementary radius. Haven't tried it yet, that's a few items down the 'to do' list, and not high priority, so it may be some time before I get back to this one, but someday I'll revisit the problem & see how my idea works (or doesn't! ).....

    Cheers,
    IW

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    It is a bit grabby, Ian and the swarf is a problem. The idea I had was to file a deep gullet every 30mm or so but I figured I shouldn't try to improve the tool until I'd improved the operator but I may nose/breast it a bit to smooth the action.

    How long did you make yours? This one is 150mm which is how it came so I assume is a typical length but it does feel short to me.

    (first outing for the new layout tools too, Ian )

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    ...I'll just make the other bits smaller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berlin View Post
    It is a bit grabby, Ian and the swarf is a problem. The idea I had was to file a deep gullet every 30mm or so but I figured I shouldn't try to improve the tool until I'd improved the operator but I may nose/breast it a bit to smooth the action.
    Matt - I only noticed after a second look that you made your saw cut on the pull-stroke, which makes sense - you can drag out the sawdust by doing an almost complete exit every few strokes. Mine cuts on the push stroke, which compounds the problem of waste build-up. Making the entire blade elliptical & using a circular cutting stroke is the only way I can see to clear sawdust effectively on continuous cutting, but unfortunately, that brings some other problems to design & use. I must try reversing the blade on mine, next time I use it on a job...

    Quote Originally Posted by Berlin View Post
    This one is 150mm which is how it came so I assume is a typical length but it does feel short to me.
    I couldn't remember, so I looked it up & it's 225mm. I lit on that length after a bit of trial & error to find length that was easy to manoeuvre & would register nicely against the fence. That seems like the right size for me. Others' mileage will vary.....

    Cheers,
    IW

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