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    Hi folks

    I was just listing some stuff that I photographed a couple of days a go on ePay and realized that I have no idea what this is called

    I have seen them from time to time and always assumed that they are a woody version of the Stanley and Record fibreboard planes. That doesn't fly now that I stop and pay attention to one, no fence makes that theory wobbly at best.

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    Best regards, Luban

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    The best i can come up with is it was used to clean the bottom of a shallow mortice Lloyd

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    Luban,
    Are the blades sharp and any chance of a pic of the underside. Just looking at the top I cant get an idea of how it cuts. It is only the handles that give it the look of a plane.
    Other ideas It may be to clamp something or something gets passed through to a uniform thickness. Leather perhaps.
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    Hi Lloyd
    like a router? I can see how that might work, I'm not sure that it is the tools intended purpose though.

    John
    There are no blades fitted, I seem to remember seeing them with Spoke shave blades or razor blades fitted when I have seen them in the past (markets and the like) but I may be inserting my assumptions into my memories, that blade holder really reminds me of the fibreboard planes which may be where I'm getting that notion.

    I just spotted THIS auction which has a similar tool with provision for only one blade.. they're calling it a "draw plane" 99.9% sure that's not it.

    here are the rest of the photos of mine.
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    Best regards, Luban

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    It's got me stumped.

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    Well, I thought on a hunch I would email Christopher Schwarz (like he would have time to respond to me!) Lo and behold ... he replied! Here's his response ...

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    Wow. No clue. I’ve never seen anything like it. I’m not even sure it’s a woodworking tool.

    Judging from the knob mechanisms I would guess it is used for thicknessing something. Leather?

    Whenever I cannot identify a tool, I always assume it’s a leathermaking tool. R.A. Salaman has book that is a dictionary of leathermaking tools. You might ask if someone on your forum has the book and could browse through it. Or crosspost on a leather forum.

    Sorry I couldn’t be more help here.

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    Hi Afro Boy
    wow.. looks like its a bit of a mystery.
    Funny, I have seen them around enough to assume that they were a fairly common tool.
    I'll take Mr Schwarz's advice and look through some leather working tools.
    Best regards, Luban

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    I could swear I've seen one around somewhere but just can't place it. I have been frequenting some "antique" stores in the dandenongs lately, but who knows.
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    I asked a Mate who worked with leather for many years - he has never seen one of these.

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    I don't know for sure Luban, but it does look as if it would bevel both sides of a board of varying thicknesses.

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    Hi TT

    I just got this reply from Tony Derrett at the Guildford Tool Museum (well worth a trip from Melbourne imho)

    It is a fibre board trimming tool. They were used to trim sheets of fibre board, like the stuff we call masonite. It could trim the sheet square or bevel.
    I have no reason to doubt Tony, his collection and range of knowledge is huge.. however I'm still having a tough time visualizing it being used, my brain wants to see a fence.. perhaps it requires a running guide nailed or clamped to the board ala a wooden rebate plane?

    I dunno.. I'm going to hang on to it until I get a chance to find a blade get the thing to make a clean bevel.. it'll bug the hell out of me if I don't.

    Funny that a fibreboard plane was my first thought and that I managed to talk myself out of it.. always go with your gut I guess

    I'd still love to hear from anyone with hands on experience using one of these things.
    Best regards, Luban

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afro Boy View Post
    I could swear I've seen one around somewhere but just can't place it. I have been frequenting some "antique" stores in the dandenongs lately, but who knows.
    If my doggy memory is ok today,
    you would have seen it nearer to you than me in the outer eastern suburbs. Down at Tyabb in the packing house, Robyn's section with the rusty old tools and spanners, it's been there for as long as I can remember.

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    Peter

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