10" Table saw for under $1500

roundnbrown · 6th June 2016, 02:56 PM

Hi Noons and others on the thread

First thanks for taking the trouble to post your story, your Timbecon review and especially your detective work on the USA clones. The manual on the General was a very informative read. Was the Timbecon manual the same?

I am in the same position as you- looking for an ACCURATE table saw, similar budget and some space limitations.

Buying machinery nowadays is a lottery: you can find a 5 star review and a 2 star review for the same product and this can be because the 2 star reviewer got the Friday afternoon model and is not necessarily more picky than the other guy. My own experience with a $500 Makita CSMS says you cannot rely on the brand anymore for accuracy of build and operation: warped alloy fence castings, lots of free play in the mitre stops etc .

I was going to get the Timbecon Hybrid TS on the strength of your review and the related US/Canadian reviews but the price is now $1799 without a blade. Carbatec ($1500) Ledacraft ($1617) and Hare & Forbes ($1265 on special) and Beyond Tools now show the Rikon at $1670

carbatec.com.au/machinery-and-accessories/tablesaws-and-accessories/tablesaws/tablesaw-250mm-1-crate-1-box
Table Saws : LEDACRAFT MJ-2325CB 10 inch TABLE SAW
https://machineryhouse.trado.com.au/...w-254mm-163831
254mm 10″ Table Saw 10-201 by Rikon |

It is difficult to be sure the guts of these are the same as the Timbecon. I see some detail differences (lack of chrome handwheels, different plastic blade cover) and maybe some differences in motor power. The sales staff aren't much help: H&F told me their machine was 15A as per their catalogue but the one on display had a 10 amp plug. He couldn't tell me why 2000w motor needs 15A whereas my 2200 Target kettle is 2200W and 10 amp plug. That may be a starting current issue but at least he should know. He says their machine is made in China, whereas Timbecon say Taiwan (incidentally, was that what it said on the label?). When you discuss Taiwan v China with Timbecon, they point to the paint finish ! Is that more important than surface flatness on the tables, arbor run out etc ??

So, should I save $560 on H&F are then maybe get disappointed. or to play safe and go Timbecon.? and what about that Rikon??

Any further thoughts welcome.

**Lizziecro** · 7th June 2016, 09:12 AM

Hi Noons,
I don't often contribute to the forums, but I have just got to recommend this table saw!! I bought the Dewalt DWE7491-XE10"portable table saw in March, out of necessity when Bunnings couldn't manage to cut straight planks for my wall. Decided to bite the bullet and buy my own table saw so I could do things myself, and maaaate!!!! I absolutely LOVE this power tool! I was originally just going to buy something adequate, but after seeing this in Gasweld, Wollongong, I just knew it was THE one for me. Could not be happier with it. And it's just over $1,000. I also bought the stand, then made a trolley for it, so I can move it around my garage. What I really love is that it has a ripping capacity of 825mm on the right, and 558 on the left. For me, so far, that covers just about everything I need to do. Here's the link to the one I bought. Hope this helps. Cheers, Liz.
DWE7491-XE | Dewalt Portable Table Saw 254mm 10 2000W | Gasweld

**John G** · 1st September 2016, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by noons

Ok, so as I suspected, it was a stuff up during manufacturing.
It should be a 10amp plug but some of the machines in the latest batch have been given a 15amp plug.
I've been told to either cut off the 15amp plug and put a 10amp plug on, or if I feel uncomfortable doing that, I can get a sparky in to do it and then send the bill off to Timbecon.

OMG, I bought this thicknesser from Timbecon last year and it also has a 15A plug. It never said anything about it in the manual or website. Lucky I have a 15A socket in the garage or else I would have needed to take it back. Wonder if they all come from the same Taiwan factory.
Very annoying because I can't move it around. Wonder if Timbecon will still offer to pay for a sparky to change the plug if this was over 12 months ago??

**FenceFurniture** · 1st September 2016, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mobyturns

Wonder if that voids your warranty besides being illegal!

It may vary from State to State, but mostly you only have to be "competent" to change a plug.

Originally Posted by noons

It's a 1500w motor, so only 6.25a.

That's not quite the point - induction motors have a much bigger current draw during start up. This is quite probably why it comes with a 15a plug (9.5a is perilously close to 10a, so maybe they went 15a for safety).

Glad you like the machine! Like another poster I purchased the DW 7491 as an interim measure and although I haven't used it a whole bunch just yet, it appears to be the goods for the available space I have atm.

**andrewquested** · 3rd October 2016, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by noons

If over east, and can pick up a Harvey for $1800 I would go for that as finish is probably better.

I'm also thinking about getting a table saw in this price range. I'm pretty new to all this and, after reading the thread, have a couple of questions:

Which Harvey saw are you referring to? Is it 110-LC-30?

And, are you still happy with your Sherwood hybrid saw?

Did the belt get clogged-up with sawdust as you had feared? Any other feedback?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

- Andrew

**smith9** · 19th April 2017, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Mobyturns

Great advice!

Wonder if that voids your warranty besides being illegal!

Shouldn't be illegal, just a nanny state. I remember learning how to wire a plug at school.

**ian** · 20th April 2017, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by smith9

Shouldn't be illegal, just a nanny state. I remember learning how to wire a plug at school.

swapping a 15A plug for a 10A plug is not about your competence or otherwise in wiring a plug -- it's about changing the type approval.

If a machine is supplied with a 15A plug, but the type approval is for a 10A plug, then the retailer is being a little naughty in selling the machine without first swapping the plug.
On the other hand, if the type approval is with a 15A plug, then the retailer is being very naughty if they are supplying variants with a 10A plug or are advising customers to change the plug.

**takai** · 12th June 2017, 12:05 PM

Just to resurrect this one for a bit, im looking at upgrading from my worksite saw and noticed that the W486 is now $1250 at H&F. From everything that im reading this is quite similar to the General International one that Noons has (yet to see it in person) and that others were considering. Anyone able to give an update?

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