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Thread: Dewalt vs Hiikoki
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13th August 2022, 01:14 PM #16Senior Member
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14th August 2022, 12:48 AM #17Senior Member
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Hi Hodgo,
I have the DW 7491 and am happy with it - the fence rack & pinion works great. I went for portable because of lack of space, otherwise would've preferred induction motor. This thing is LOUD. It's totally fine with ear muffs on, but living in a small lot suburb with neighbours within touching distance, I do get self-conscious using it.
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14th August 2022, 01:53 PM #18
Hikoke was Hitachi rebranded. It is a japanese brand.
Metabo is a completely different company.
Unless one bought out the other, but the branding would make no sense.
I have some hitachi hand held power tools. They are very good. IMO much better than Dewalt. I have no experience of those type of portable table saws. Some Hitachi was as good as the best makita stuff years ago. Don't know about now.
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Hitachi Koki bought Metabo in 2017. Hitachi Power Tools is Now Metabo HPT | Pro Tool Reviews
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14th August 2022, 04:01 PM #21Senior Member
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14th August 2022, 05:35 PM #22
Yes, that is how I remembered it from some years ago too, but it just looked like a rack in that pic. Anyway...don't buy the Metabo – the fence is no good! There were certainly things I liked about the Metabo, like the built in legs (can't remember how stable they were) and it looks like Hikoki have borrowed that idea. I definitely DON'T like the DW stand (I have one) - it is a giant trip hazard, especially in a small shop....which is where they are destined to be (forgetting site use). The legs stick out from the saw a helluva long way, IIRC.
I think I'd be leaning towards the Hikoki (not having seen it live). Soft start, R&P fence, maybe a useful outfeed extension, and I think you said a coupla hundred cheaper. Perhaps they've combined the best of both saws (DW and Metabo).
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14th August 2022, 06:13 PM #23Senior Member
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I was never entertaining the idea of the Metabo & never mentioned it in my original post,
I've seen one in the flesh and was less than impressed with the fence ,
the opening topic was Hikoki vs dewalt because of their very similar features,in particular the R&P because it drives the fence to & fro from both sides eliminating any possibility of the fence not being square due to free play or slop
I'm not big on the legs and trolley of the hikoki and wish they would sell it a bit cheaper without as I'd like to incorporate it into my own setup
having said that the splayed legs are very sturdy and a lot more robust that the metabo although as you say,they could be a trip hazard
there are glowing reports on youtube, a lot of which are under the hitachi banner that are worth a look
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17th August 2022, 07:47 PM #24Senior Member
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OK hold the phone!
I saw one too many youtube review (unfavourable) of the Hikoki and opted for the dw7491
I managed to purchase it for the same price that the Hikoki was selling for thanks to some calculated bargaining and price matching
I've got it all assembled ready to test tomorrow
it would seem to be a bit limited for blade selection due to the bore size (16mm)
I'd like a blade that can make a nice fine cross cut and possibly be OK for ripping as well
any recommendations would be greatly appreciated
cheers
Hodgo
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17th August 2022, 08:26 PM #25
Are you sure it’s 16mm? Most blades are commonly 5/8” but some companies say 16mm when converting sizes etc. But in saying that, you can buy blades in both those bore sizes.
I’d be measuring the blade that comes with the saw, had a quick look online but couldn’t find specs.Cheers
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17th August 2022, 09:14 PM #27SENIOR MEMBER
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On my 8 1/4 inch blade model - The actual bolt/arbour measures 16mm (as close as I can tell with crude tools) but the supplied blade and redemption blade have 30mm holes. The ‘washer’ that goes on before the nut has a 30mm raised ring that engages the 30mm blade hole.
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17th August 2022, 09:37 PM #28Senior Member
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17th August 2022, 10:14 PM #29SENIOR MEMBER
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I am going to have to disagree with you there. Hikoki are the same as the rest now. I have a brand new boxed up 36V hikoki saw here that is a toy compared to the equal dewalt version.
WRT table saws. I have an older Bosch GTS 10 J and decided it needed to be upgraded last year. Went to look at the table saws, but the fences are the worst. Go to your tool store and check out how flimsy all the fences are. They are all junk now.
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17th August 2022, 11:02 PM #30Senior Member
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There are a whole bunch of 5/8" Freud blades that fit this saw (7491) perfectly. Easy to get on Amazon and a more limited range through Timbecon. I'm pretty sure the American version of the saw says the arbour is 5/8 and I bet they don't make our version different by 0.2mm!
I've pretty much never needed to use an insert ring except for a non ferrous blade which has a 30mm hole.
There are at least two other threads on the forums that discuss this saw and cover some of this stuff - it's worth a search 🙂
Enjoy your new saw!
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