Hammer C3-31 vs A3-31/K3

**brooklynboy** · 26th July 2013, 08:28 PM

Hi Guys,

i'm new to the forum so go easy on me if a make any unmentionable mistakes.

I'm setting up a new workshop, initially it was to be 6m x 6m , and I was limited to a combi, the local dealers over here(NZ),Jacks, were raving on about the Robland , which retails here for NZ$14000 +gst , however, after doing a bit of research on the net,I started to have doubts,
I contacted the local Felder dealership (Machines'R us), who are selling the C3-31 for NZ$10500+gst, (I do like the idea that the Hammer are made in the Felder plant).So was all ready to plump for the C3-31, when the workshop space potentially has expanded to 12m x 6m!!!! (its a trade off with my better half), so now i have twice as much space and the specter is raised of getting the A3-31(NZ$4300) and the K3 (NZ$6000), this still leaves me with no Spindle Moulder or Morticer.
this is my first decent workshop, my previous work was done at a local community who had ancient Wadkins from the '40's, so I have no experience on a combi machine. Any comments welcome.

**joez** · 27th July 2013, 10:27 AM

I have a minimax cu300 smart in a 7x5m shed, it does all i ask for , I am very happy with it.

If I had a 6x12m shed i would seperate the jointer/thicknesser and saw so I think your onto a good thing.

As far as shaper goes, they are awesome machines to have, but setup and the tooling costs means I use my router table 99.9% of the time.

On the morticer front, I have one and havent really used it since getting a domino.

joez

**Austin_Turner** · 27th July 2013, 01:33 PM

Albert (from Auckland) recently looked at Felder and ended up picking up a Robland NX410 from Jacks, he wrote an initial review here:
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f171/r...th-jun-172438/

If you want a spindle moulder you could get a B3 rather than K3. A B3 perform with powerfeed is on my "buy when space and power permits" list.

**brooklynboy** · 28th July 2013, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Austin_Turner

Albert (from Auckland) recently looked at Felder and ended up picking up a Robland NX410 from Jacks, he wrote an initial review here:
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f171/r...th-jun-172438/

If you want a spindle moulder you could get a B3 rather than K3. A B3 perform with powerfeed is on my "buy when space and power permits" list.

cheers guys , thanks for the help

Rob

**MatMann** · 29th July 2013, 03:08 AM

The C3-31 doesn't come with the morticer standard - its a $1000 option
the K3 and B3 machines are far better units than the compromised C3 - although the B3 will run you 4-6k more.
Options ARE expensive
Accessories ARE expensive

my B3 arrives in October

**brooklynboy** · 2nd August 2013, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by joez

I have a minimax cu300 smart in a 7x5m shed, it does all i ask for , I am very happy with it.

If I had a 6x12m shed i would seperate the jointer/thicknesser and saw so I think your onto a good thing.

As far as shaper goes, they are awesome machines to have, but setup and the tooling costs means I use my router table 99.9% of the time.

On the morticer front, I have one and havent really used it since getting a domino.

joez

Hi Joez,

I've been offered a secondhand CU350K for $7000+GST , which may change my mind from the Hammer, only hitch being its 3-phase, however, I've heard of single to 3 phase transformers, has anyone any experience with these?
Rob

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