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25th June 2017, 08:37 PM #1
Laguna Fusion v Harvey HW110LC-30
Hi,
It's coming to the time to replace the ol' trusty Triton Workcentre. I've been looking at the Fusion Laguna tablesaw, and liked what I saw at the Trend stand at the timber show. I particularly like the great blade guard and the anti-kickback fingers. The micro adjustment on the fence would also be very useful.
I then saw the Harvey HW110LC-30 at the Major Woodworking stand. This also looked good, but minus the sweet guard and the micro adjustment on the fence.
The question I have is horsepower. I've got the original big Triton saw in the Workcentre which is rated at 3HP. To be honest it's never struggled with anything I've put through it. The Fusion is rated at 1.75HP or 2HP, and the Harvey is rated at 2.5HP or 3HP (both depending where you read).
Is the Laguna 1.75 or 2HP? Is 1.75HP enough to cut hardwood in a 10" saw? I'm leaning to the Laguna, but have reservations over the HP. This saw has to be the one the lasts me years.
Thanks for your advice!
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25th June 2017, 08:45 PM #2
I've been doing the same research and everyone I've talked to has said 3HP is a must. The Harvey 3HP saws have been very well received by forum members, do a bit of a search and it should turn up some threads. I'm looking at buying one myself later on this year, just waiting for tax time.
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25th June 2017, 09:07 PM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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I was looking at the same thing 3 years ago - went the Harvey and can't complain at all.
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25th June 2017, 09:31 PM #4GOLD MEMBER
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I can't answer your specific question but I know that you can't compare the power drain (Watts) of the motor of your circular saw with that of an induction motor. The induction motor in a table saw would not need to draw as much power as your circular saw to do the same cut.
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25th June 2017, 10:06 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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Worth having a look at the Harvey HW110LGE-30. 3HP and a much more solid machine than the Laguna Fusion. I'd recommend taking a look at this if you don't want the desire to upgrade later. A friend bought the Fusion and regrets it / wants to upgrade.
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26th June 2017, 11:49 AM #6
Thanks everyone.
I've found Bigger Boyz Toyz (Bigger Boyz Toyz | Garden Tools, Power Equipment | BBTA) have the HW110LGE-30 for $400 less than Harvey (I can pick up from both so no need for delivery). At the BBTA price, this saw can sneak into the equation. Has anyone bought off these guys?
It does seem that the consensus on here is that 2HP is too small for a 10" saw, but in saying that quite a few people are into the Fusion.
I'll check out the HW110LGE-30.... at the end of the day, I'm sure I'd be very happy with any 3 of these table saws!
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26th June 2017, 12:53 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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If you can pick up from bbta then it seems like a no brainer to me. I have not purchased from them but I can't foresee any issues if you live close enough to pick-up.
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26th June 2017, 01:56 PM #8SENIOR MEMBER
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I have had my fusion for about six months and could not be happier. I rarely use the full capacity of the saw but cuts even full thickness tas oak easily. Set up was easy as everything was spot on out of the box. Only needs a 10 Amp plug.
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Mike
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26th June 2017, 02:18 PM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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The 10A plug is gonethjng to think about..... The 3hp Harvey needs 15A - I found out the hard way.....but still glad I did
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26th June 2017, 02:32 PM #10GOLD MEMBER
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The 10amp vs 15amp plug issue should not sway the decision in my opinion. You'll need a 15amp point for other machines at some stage in any case.
Also, im not an electrician nor do i know much about domestic wiring but most 10amp points run on 20amp circuits so as long as you aren't running multiple machines simultaneously off a 10amp point you should be ok but it depends on your specific wiring/house. My garage 10amp points were on 20amp wiring, circuit breakers etc but had multiple points on the one circuit.
Again i'm not recommending this (running 15 amp machine on 10amp point and take no liability but a friend has done so for a long time with no issues. Plus the saw will only draw 15amps when pushed to the max. Still not worth the risk of burning down your house and no insurance etc though IMO.
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26th June 2017, 05:45 PM #11
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26th June 2017, 05:46 PM #12
The guard/riving knife on the Harvey's looks no better than that on my Triton Workcentre.... Does anyone know of a reasonable guard and riving knife for these machines? This is where the Fusion looks much further ahead.
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How is the riving knife on the fusion any better than any other riving knife including the Laguna Platinum / Harvey? With regard to overhead guard, if you are after good dust collection you will likely change that out for a custom/home made version or an after-market over-head dust collection guard in any case.
What is the main advantage you see in the Fusion riving knife / guard?
Also, I believe the Fusion riving knife is for thin-kerf blades only, not for standard thickness blades (3.2mm), so that may or may not be a factor. Although I'm not 100% sure on this.
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Yeah ok. I remembered there was something with the riving knife thickness. It must be that the fusion has a 3.2mm knife but is more suited to a thin kerf blade due to it's lower power motor. But then of course the riving knife is too thick.
Anti kick back pawls would be beneficial, but I'd rather have an overhead guard that captures the fine dust and thus wouldn't use the included guard in any case.
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