Thread: Mj-2325a sliding table saw

I'm in Adelaide, and have been into Leda a bit. They seem like a decent bunch of guys. Asking about the Leda 'brand' however wont get you anywhere with your question though. At the end of the day a MJ2325 tablesaw is a MJ2325 tablesaw, it doesn't matter if you get it from Leda, Carbatec, Timbecon etc etc they all roll out of the same Chinese factory, albeit with a different colour paint job on them.

Having said that, the sliding table on the Carbatec version is a lot better, as it is a cast iron table as opposed the others being folded steel. It is also twice the price. If you are after a sliding table to cut small pieces then this would be alright for you. If you are after something that can handle 1/2 sheet sizes, I think you'd be best looking at another type of setup. The sliding table on the MJ2325 doesn't take much force to deflect the outer edge of the table down a good 5-6mm. This can affect the quality and bevel angle of the cut.

Thanks for the info. I am in Adelaide several times a year and have most of my family living there. I have been to Leda as well and would have to agree with your comment. I rang them on a Saturday and was told they were not open only catching up on work but come on over we will show you around.

I only discovered there was a Carbatec store in Adelaide last night. I will have to have a look at their version when there next. Not til June I think.

I am considering the pros and cons of either buying a Table Saw or Building one myself. I am renovating a timber framed house and would like to do some built-in cabinets, new kitchen etc. I would need to cut sheets so this ability is essential.

I went the triton way when we bought this property (43 acres) but have found them to be very short on accuracy. I bought their saw as I thought it would be easier to fit to workcentre. Hmm. It is a good circular saw on its own, if a little heavy. The best results I have had, many years ago is a circular saw mounted under a 4 x 8 sheet of chipboard and a fence made of 455mm wide length of chipboard laying flat. Very precise if limited in scope. The problem I have is accurate crosscutting.

Dean

I had thought about making something similar myself at one stage. The potential safety issues got the better of me though.

Carbatec's version is here Carba-Tec 10" Cabinet Saw with Sliding Table : CARBA-TEC

I'm currently using this TSC-10HB Heavy Duty Cabinet Saw : CARBA-TEC, as is a lot of people from this forum too.

How much would you NEED the sliding table? Having had a look at both Leda and Carbatec's offerings on the MJ2325, for my intended useage the sliders would be more of a hinderance due to the flex. I'm currently in the process of trying to talk myself into buying this Carba-Tec® Sliding Table : CARBA-TEC. Last time they had one instore I had a quick play with it and it had a much smoother travel and no flex.

I want to make a lot of built in cupboards. My wife has issues with cleaning due to arthritis (A rare and little understood type which took about 20 years of being told she was a hypochondriac to diagnose. It is related to psoriasis, If you have heard of that) and other things. I want to seal the house so minimal dusting and dust collection on top of things so try to build to ceiling and close everything in.

The insides of cupboards will be mostly chipboard but I would like to build timber fascias. The house is 60 odd year old stringy bark frame (I think). If you drive a nail into it drill a hole the size of the nail. If you drill a hole the minor size of a screw and try to screw it in it will break off.

I am slowly renovating down to the frame. Relining painting etc. I would like to finish cupboards etc in recycled Tassie oak or similar. One job coming up is to build cupboards floor to ceiling in a family room which we use for hobbies etc. That is when my wife cleans up her stuff so I can get in to the room. This room is 4754mm wide and 2700mm high. I am going to build cupboards into a full wall 600mm deep. These will be chipboard inside and white painted 25mm ply doors. The ply came from salvage yard at $20 for about 700mm x 2400 usable size. They were desk tops.

As can be seen I have a lot of use for a sliding table or equivalent.

I do not see any problems regarding safety as if it can be made I guess I can make it. I have a fair size metal lathe, milling attachment (homemade) mig and arc welders, 8 tonne press(homemade) and don't see any problems making a table saw mechanism if that is the way I decide to go. Where is the safety issue. I believe I can make it better than the factories as I can spend more time and engineer it stronger. I have built many things including a trailer (3rd Reincarnation coming up. See trailer forum. Bit like grandfathers axe this trailer) A hydraulic wood splitter from own design, a hay and general lifting trailer for around the farm. Bales of hay weigh about 300kg. Shed extensions etc etc.

What it amounts to is if I have the money available before I have the time to build. I want to buy or make a milling machine first, maybe. Time will tell.

Dean

Fair enough, the same reason I like built ins too! Cleaning is not one of my strong points.

The other idea to keep in mind is that a tablesaw is probably more powerful than the average circular saw, and should anything jam, being belt driven the belts will slip rather than frying the motor/gearbox.

Good point although I would like to think that I would include a quick acting off switch to the setup either way. I also keep forgetting that I already have a purpose bought 12inch 40 tooth Blade. I bought it with a voucher from the family last birthday.

I also need to work out where to put a saw setup. I have a workshop about 5m by 9m with concrete floor in strips about a metre wide running length ways. The shed/floor is about 60 years old. The floor is very very uneven. Looks like it has been hit with an earthquake. I have variations of over 2inches in places. I also have a large metal lathe, hydraulic press, wood lathe on cupboard, horizontal band saw, drill press, cut off saw, mig, arc and oxy welders and masses of "Stuff". I have built on a 4m wide lean-to full length but only has dirt floor open ends and about half of side. What goes where. Hobbies ARE intended to occupy your time!

Dean

This is very true! I keep getting told to come in from the shed so I can help organise the engagement party. To which I usually reply that you can have whatever you want, I just need shed time to finish some projects so I can pay for it

I still think you'd be best of buying a table saw, even if it is just a contractor saw and you fabricate a table for it. It is without a doubt the most used machine in many a shop and with all the work you seem to have looming you don't want to be stuffing about trying to make a saw from scratch. Plus if you are intending on making lots of shelves/cupboards I'd think you'd need a dado capability? This Gary Pye Woodturning :: Gary Pye Woodturning - GPW 10/12" Table Saw is another excellent saw for the money you may want to look into. At least then you'll be able to use that 12" blade

My shed is also around the 60 year old mark. Adding to that is the fact that is used to be a commercial cabinet shop (previous owner operated out of the back yard) and had some epically dodgy home wired 3 phase setups. Metal conduit poking out of the concrete all over the place, earth wires (bare un-insulated wires at that) coming out the back of the power points attached to metal spikes in the floor, chunks of concrete missing... I feel your pain with an uneven floor!

Good looking saw. Will look in detail when I have the time. I am sitting in bed doing this. I start work at 6.00 tonight, probably for 12 hours, first for this vintage so taking it easy. I have 4G data limit off peak, which finishes at 11:30am so when I get the chance I make use of it. I only have 1G during peak hours and it is all too easy to go over. I use satellite which is the only service available to me at the moment except dial-up. Hurry on the national broadband system which looks as tho it will do absolutely nothing for me! Sigh.

Do you have 3 phase power connected. If so would be a handy thing. I am near the end of a SWER line and if you don't know what that means, 3 phase is totally impossible. Many miles away.

Dean

Yes, I have 3 phase on site. The only issue is that I am renting this place, as such I didn't want to commit to any 3 phase equipment as there is a good chance that where ever we move after this won't have 3 phase already hooked up.

Good Point. Shame tho. I have an old 3 phase motor off my metal lathe lying on the ground out the back of my implement shed amongst the junk. No use to me at all. Not worth any money either. Maybe come in handy for something one day.

Dean

Originally Posted by Oldneweng

I am considering the pros and cons of either buying a Table Saw or Building one myself. I am renovating a timber framed house and would like to do some built-in cabinets, new kitchen etc. I would need to cut sheets so this ability is essential.

I went the triton way when we bought this property (43 acres) but have found them to be very short on accuracy. I bought their saw as I thought it would be easier to fit to workcentre. Hmm. It is a good circular saw on its own, if a little heavy. The best results I have had, many years ago is a circular saw mounted under a 4 x 8 sheet of chipboard and a fence made of 455mm wide length of chipboard laying flat. Very precise if limited in scope. The problem I have is accurate crosscutting.

Dean

Sheetgoods are a little unwieldy. You can buy (or make) a jig that will ensure your cuts with a circular saw are straight and easy to locate.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH5dW-QcgeI]YouTube - MAKING STRAIGHT CUTS WITH A HOMEMADE JIG[/ame]

Festool, Makita, De Walt and some others also have rather nice saws that have extruded guides that attach to them to guide them on straight cuts I used the Festool once, and it's good.

Originally Posted by Oldneweng

I want to make a lot of built in cupboards. My wife has issues with cleaning due to arthritis (A rare and little understood type which took about 20 years of being told she was a hypochondriac to diagnose. It is related to psoriasis, If you have heard of that) and other things. I want to seal the house so minimal dusting and dust collection on top of things so try to build to ceiling and close everything in.

The insides of cupboards will be mostly chipboard but I would like to build timber fascias. The house is 60 odd year old stringy bark frame (I think). If you drive a nail into it drill a hole the size of the nail. If you drill a hole the minor size of a screw and try to screw it in it will break off.

I am slowly renovating down to the frame. Relining painting etc. I would like to finish cupboards etc in recycled Tassie oak or similar. One job coming up is to build cupboards floor to ceiling in a family room which we use for hobbies etc. That is when my wife cleans up her stuff so I can get in to the room. This room is 4754mm wide and 2700mm high. I am going to build cupboards into a full wall 600mm deep. These will be chipboard inside and white painted 25mm ply doors. The ply came from salvage yard at $20 for about 700mm x 2400 usable size. They were desk tops.

As can be seen I have a lot of use for a sliding table or equivalent.

I do not see any problems regarding safety as if it can be made I guess I can make it. I have a fair size metal lathe, milling attachment (homemade) mig and arc welders, 8 tonne press(homemade) and don't see any problems making a table saw mechanism if that is the way I decide to go. Where is the safety issue. I believe I can make it better than the factories as I can spend more time and engineer it stronger. I have built many things including a trailer (3rd Reincarnation coming up. See trailer forum. Bit like grandfathers axe this trailer) A hydraulic wood splitter from own design, a hay and general lifting trailer for around the farm. Bales of hay weigh about 300kg. Shed extensions etc etc.

What it amounts to is if I have the money available before I have the time to build. I want to buy or make a milling machine first, maybe. Time will tell.

Dean

According to the ads, a sawstop will make your wife happy.