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14th February 2019, 07:32 PM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Please explain something about panel saws for me
Hi. Many times I’ve looked at pictures of those big sliding table panel saws like Altendorf or SCM and always been mystified by how they work.
The thing that puzzles me is this:
Most sheet goods are 2400 x 1200 or thereabouts.
The sliding tables appear to be sized about right to support a sheet lengthwise, but they’re only about 350 to 450 mm wide.
Typically there is an articulated, combined fence/support at the front of the sliding ‘table’. Although it always seems a bit over complicated for the job it has to do, it no doubt is able to support the leading edge of the panel. However it is also only about 500 mm long.
So that still seems to leave over half of the panel unsupported (or so it seems) when doing a narrow rip cut. The rear left hand corner of the sheet appears to be completely unsupported (defining rear as the last bit to go past the blade).
I know it can’t really be the case, so what am I missing.
Randomly chosen image of typical saw attached, so it’s clear what I’m talking about.
Cheers
Arron
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14th February 2019, 08:08 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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The clamp holds one back edge and the operator the other. There is only a requirement to support the sheet at the first trim cut and after that, unless you are doing really narrow rips, the sheet is almost balanced.
An alternative that shows a lot of promise is the crazy horse dolly shown in this video.
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14th February 2019, 09:47 PM #3Taking a break
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You just have to support the floating corner with your left hand; most of the weight of the sheet is carried between the table and crosscut fence, you only need to lift it a little so the front right corner sits flat on the table. It might sound awkward, but it's really not that bad.
Altendorf (and possibly others) does offer a secondary outrigger table with a floor support for places that do extra heavy work like cutting thick aluminium plate.
Additional cross slide with floor support roller - World Class Panel Saws
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14th February 2019, 10:06 PM #4GOLD MEMBER
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Ok, thanks for clearing that up guys.
And the crazy horse dolly looks great too - for places with a smooth floor.
Cheers
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14th February 2019, 11:30 PM #5
Yes a smooth floor and KEEP IT CLEAN or it won't work effectively
The person who never made a mistake never made anything
Cheers
Ray
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17th February 2019, 04:24 PM #6Senior Member
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At work we just hold the corner up with the left hand and press the bourd to the sliding table with the right. there is normaly a slide out arm which helps with this. 3.6m x1.8 m sheets definetly require assistance -holding and walking with the cut. Best avoided though.
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17th February 2019, 10:41 PM #7
Good Morning Arron
A sliding panel saw handles sheet material a lot more easily than a "conventional" saw bench. There are some good videos on the Felder Group website - also look at their demonstration projects - their walnut desk is particularly good.
From my perspective the downside of sliding panel saws are:
- They have a very large footprint,
- $$$$$$$$'s
Upsides are:
- Rip and cross cut more precisely,
- Handle sheet material far more easily,
- Substantially better safety record.
Cheers
Graeme
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