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    Default First table saw

    Hi guys,

    I finally have some funds to buy my first table saw. This is just for weekend use for hobby projects.

    To give you some idea, I am a beginner and I have no speciality. I just want to make stuff and develop my skills.
    So far I have made some furniture like monitor stands and a bed plus some small items like candle holders and a stool. I'm making a router table and I am going to make a serious of drawers from melamine. At some stage I'll get into box making and I have many other ideas of projects to do. I also have some raw wood and some pallets that I want to process into useable timber.

    My main criteria is that the tale saw must be accurate. Esp the fence with the blade.
    I'd like a dado set at some point.

    I am going to have to get a new power line for the saw but I will stick with single phase.

    Based on the reviews on here I was going for the Harvey HW110LGE-30.
    https://www.bbta.com.au/harvey-hw110lge-30-table-saw/

    However it just so happens that Hare and Forbes have a sale this weekend. Which means I could get an St-12D for less cost or for $300 more than the Harvey I could get a PS-1810 panel saw.
    https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/W700

    It is a panel saw with a scribe blade. So a different saw altogether but it might be nice when I have to deal with sheet goods. I need to determine if it will fit in my shop. But if it does, I am wondering how it compares quality wise with the Harvey.
    I have not found any reviews of the PS-1810.
    It can take a 315mm blade vs the 10" Harvey.
    It is 3kw vs 2.2kw Harvey

    It's difficult to know what to look for when I haven;t had a table saw before.

    Any one got a PS-1810 or used one?

    If I don't have room for the PS-1810, am I better off with a ST-12D or a Harvey 110LGE-30?

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    I think the Harvey is the best saw for the money atm and would recommend it. I haven't used the others but the panel saw at hare and forbes did not seem very well put together to me when I looked at it a year or more ago in the store - maybe it was just assembled / set up poorly.

    My vote is for the Harvey. It's a solid saw and does everything right. It's the same saw as the Laguna Platinum and at $2199 is amazing value for money IMHO.

    Cheers, Dom

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    I don't know whether you're opposed to used equipment, but if not it may be worthwhile scouring the sites for something like this - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Panel-Sa...cAAOSwICpaAYlZ

    You get the same 'Made in Taiwan' quality as the Harvey, a more substantial machine than the H & F and with virtually all of the extra niceties. Might be worth thinking about. From time to time machines like this come up as well - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/combinat...p2047675.l2557
    IMO, assuming you have the space for it, a machine like that would be one step away from heaven.

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    Assuming when you say you will have to run new power to the saw you do realise that both the saws you linked to are 15 amp.

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    Both machines have 15 amp plugs. Though I suspect that they only draw near to that much power when taking the heaviest cuts in hard timber. I put a 15 amp point in for mine after 6 months - just in case - it's not worth the risk at the end of the day, no matter how small.

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    I have to run at least 2 new lines from the switch board to the shed. 1 for a dusty. I'm hoping this can be done above ground like the existing line so it wont be too costly. We'll see what the sparkies say.

    So if one or more lines needs 15Amp then it will make 5/8 of bugger all difference to the cost. As long as it is single phase.

    I had a look at a 12D today. It requires a 20Amp plug according to the manual but the motor is 2.2kw. Hard to believe that the start up current is that extreme.

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    It might be better to run one additional heavy (50 Amp?) line to the shed and install a sub board in the shed.
    The existing line could then run the shed lights and maybe some small power tools, while the heavy amp line is split into 2 or 3 15 or 20 Amp outlets for the machinery.
    With a board in the shed, it becomes a very short walk if you need to reset a breaker.
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    I agree with Ian. That’s exactly what I did. I ran a 40A line to a subboard in the shed, then ran three 15a lines from separate breakers to various parts of the shed and a 10A line on its own breaker to a number of 10A power points. I also had an original 20 A line from the house which I still use to run all the lights and fan.

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    Thanks guys. I'll mention that when I get some quotes.

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    Perhaps also make sure you and your sparky understand voltage drop.
    Unless the wire used is big enough, 40 Amp at 240V at the main switch board is not necessarily 40 Amp, 240V at the sub-board in the shed.
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    So is anybody got a PS-1810?

    My current thinking is that it is not very realistic in my small shed. I'm not sure.

    I would like to know what quality it is.

    The one vote for the Harvey reinforces the idea in me that saw is a safer bet for me.

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    This package Tablesaw, jointer, thicknesser, dust extractor for sale at $4850 might be worth hiring a U-Haul for
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    This package Tablesaw, jointer, thicknesser, dust extractor for sale at $4850 might be worth hiring a U-Haul for
    Bloody long way from Brisbane to Wodonga and return. Would seem to me that the OP has made his mind up on buying new and is looking for input from current owners to help him decide which to buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldav View Post
    Bloody long way from Brisbane to Wodonga and return. Would seem to me that the OP has made his mind up on buying new and is looking for input from current owners to help him decide which to buy.
    Exactly.

    I was in the shed all yesterday. I've decided that a sliding saw is not realistic at all.

    I could go for the ST 12D. Its a 305mm saw. On sale that's almost $400 cheaper than the Harvey.

    Can anyone advise the pros and cons of these 2 saws?



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    The SD 12D is 415v

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