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16th July 2009, 12:21 AM #1Intermediate Member
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table saw advice
hi all, this is my first post on the forum and like a lot of other people here, im looking for advice on table saws.
i'm after something like the carba tec ts 12r or mbs 300.
as far as the ts 12r goes, i was reading the specs on it and it says that the dado attachment is optional, attaching a 5/8 arbor extension thereby giving you a dado capability of up to 20mm. does anyone have any experience with this saw, and if so, is it a big hassle to fit the arbor extension on it?
with the mbs300, from what i saw, i like except for the 15mm dado capability. i find it strange that certain table saws only go up to 15 mm in dadoing. i was asking the salesman at carba tec if it could be somehow extended to increase the width of dadoing and he didn't give too much away, other than saying that if you somehow could, and something happened, it would void the warranty.does anyone know if and how it could safely be increased to cut wider dado's i.e 16-18mm .
thoughts, opinions, ideas and advice would be appreciated.
regards
michael
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16th July 2009, 08:27 PM #2
michael.
the mbs 300 has a replacement arbour - simply unscrew the standard one and fit what they call a "arbour extension". I leave mine in all the time that way i can use dado blades and standard blades.
It is an abour that has a longer thread section thats all!
No hasle to replace at all- if you can use a allen kry.
Steve
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16th July 2009, 09:07 PM #3
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16th July 2009, 09:14 PM #4Intermediate Member
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thanks steve, like i said, any advice is appreciated. like a lot of people here, i'm upgrading from my triton, and i wanna make sure that whatever table saw i get, i'm gonna be completely happy with it.speaking to different people at various carba tec branches, it seems to me that they're not too keen on using dado blades. with the danger factor, i.e if you happen to cut yourself, it does more damage than a standard blade. i know that when i do end up getting mine, i'll also be getting a suva guard or equivalent. bottom line is, you always gotta be alert when using machinery.....thanks for the advice
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26th July 2009, 11:26 PM #6Intermediate Member
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my apologies...it was the ts 12 r that i was talking about, not the mbs 300.
with the reviews i've read, i'm leaning toward the mbs 300.
my next question is....carbatec sell it for 2695.00 with optional suva guard.
mwe sell it for same price with the overhead guard.
hare and forbes sell theirs for 1859.00 with standard guard.
looking at the specs, the hare and forbes' version has a slightly wider rip capacity 1220mm compared to the carba tec version 1050mm.
mwe version 1210mm
carba tec give 5 year warranty
hare and forbes 2 year warranty
not sure on mwe warranty.
has any body had experience with the hare and forbes or mwe versions, and what is the overall verdict with them.
next question, the optional sliding table, has anybody had experience with them, and how did it handle ripping and cross cutting 8x4 sheets
regards
michael
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27th July 2009, 09:47 AM #7
Michael,
The MBS 300 has dado capability with the standard arbor, if you want wider than that gives you, then you can get the arbor extension.
There is no problem in using a dado blade as the is from a standard blade, be safety concious as they both can bite!
I too upgraded from the triton many years ago and wanted a saw that i did not need to replace again hopefully( spare parts were going to be important at some stage)
Be very carefull !! The MBS 300 is made by Mikiway in Taiwan. A MBS 300 is just that, a MBS 300. a tc-12 is not a MBS 300.
See the mikiway web site www.mikiway.com.tw/
Hope that helps you understand a bit better, best of luck in your choice.
Steve
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27th July 2009, 09:55 AM #8
Michael,
Carbatec, will lower their pricing if you ask for a better price!
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27th July 2009, 11:09 AM #9Intermediate Member
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thanks very much for all the advice
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28th July 2009, 08:38 PM #10New Member
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When I spoke with C/Tec a couple of weeks ago they said they will no longer be stocking the TS-12R as it is very similar feature wise to their MBS300 and it's not worth keeping both. Also, what is the Hare and Forbes equivalent you are talking about? The closest match I can see is the ST-12D but that isn't the same machine; - confused.
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28th July 2009, 08:41 PM #11New Member
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Sailor what did you mean by this? Do you think the MBS300 is not very good??
"...Be very carefull !! The MBS 300 is made by Mikiway in Taiwan. A MBS 300 is just that, a MBS 300. a tc-12 is not a MBS 300."
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30th July 2009, 11:11 PM #13
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30th July 2009, 11:28 PM #14
Sorry for the delay.
I was simply responding to :
" i'm leaning toward the mbs 300.
my next question is....carbatec sell it for 2695.00 with optional suva guard.
mwe sell it for same price with the overhead guard.
hare and forbes sell theirs for 1859.00 with standard guard."
so my meanig was carbatec sell the mbs300 ... mwe and hare and forbes do nt call theirs a MBS300 - they may look like one but are not the same.
I have ownes a mbs300 for about 6 years and am very happy with it.
Regards
Steve
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31st July 2009, 12:07 AM #15
Cool,
For what reason did you go with the MBS300 over some of the other saws at carbatec?
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