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    Default Table saw research

    I have been doing some online table saw surfing and have come up with a short list of machines that I am considering ;
    Features I would like are : cast iron table , decent fence f(ront and rear rail ), sliding table would be nice but not compulsory.Anything I missed I would appreciate advice

    Carbatec CTJ 650 10" $899.00
    Carbatec CT-10ST 10" $ 995.00
    decent fence ,cast iron top ,

    Hare and Forbes (HAFCO)
    Woodmaster SB10 $795.00 cast iron table pressed steel wings,may have twin rail fence
    Woodmaster SB10H $949.00 ( cabinet base) all cast iron top ,may have twin rail fence
    Woodmaster ST250 (sliding table cast iron work tables $1295.00
    (cant determine the type of fence from website pics)

    Leda
    MJ2325G 10" $759.00
    MJ2325 CB 10" cabinet base $979.00
    MJ2325A 10" sliding table $1245.00
    all have cast iron table , riving knife, twin rail micro adjustable fence

    Gregory

    Jet JWTS-10 " $795.00 cast iron table pressed steel wings
    Jet JWTS-10" LFR cast iron top twin rail fence (micro Glide)

    The sliding table feature maybe a space eater on all but the Carbatec, as they are outrigger types where the Carbatec is with in the boundaries of the machine.


    Any experiences good or bad on the above machines would be appreciated

    Thanks
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    This is one of the perennial questions that pop up on this board (in fact I'm surprised that it's not a sticky at the top of the forum).

    Over the years, all aspects of it have been covered inside and out.

    All that information is in the archives.
    All you have to do is look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigb View Post
    This is one of the perennial questions that pop up on this board (in fact I'm surprised that it's not a sticky at the top of the forum).

    Over the years, all aspects of it have been covered inside and out.

    All that information is in the archives.
    All you have to do is look.

    And we all agreed the TSC10 was the winner


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    Quote Originally Posted by dazzler View Post
    And we all agreed the TSC10 was the winner
    TSC10-HB actually

    Although, my Leda 12HK is better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumby View Post
    Although, my Leda 12HK is better
    Yep, practically near as good as a TC-12

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigb View Post
    This is one of the perennial questions that pop up on this board (in fact I'm surprised that it's not a sticky at the top of the forum).

    Over the years, all aspects of it have been covered inside and out.

    All that information is in the archives.
    All you have to do is look.

    In Woodlee's defence, loking through all this information can be daunting sometimes and can be easier to ask a new question. It can also prompt others to reply with information that may not have been offered.

    Quote Originally Posted by dazzler
    And we all agreed the TSC10 was the winner
    I can't see the attraction with this table. I bought a Hare and Forbes ST-250 and am really happy with it. The fence is good as is the sliding table - sure, no matter what you buy there is always something better somewhere out there but I can't fault it on anything major.

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    Or just get a JET supersaw.
    Visit my website at www.myFineWoodWork.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just George View Post
    In Woodlee's defence, loking through all this information can be daunting sometimes
    Yes. If you are lazy
    and can be easier to ask a new question.
    Yes. If you are lazy
    It can also prompt others to reply with information that may not have been offered.
    No, it's all been offered. Believe me.

    How much do you think that there is to say about a table saw?

    BTW the title of this thread is table saw research.

    I guess it all depends on your definition of what the meaning of research is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just George View Post
    In Woodlee's defence, loking through all this information can be daunting sometimes and can be easier to ask a new question. It can also prompt others to reply with information that may not have been offered.



    I can't see the attraction with this table. I bought a Hare and Forbes ST-250 and am really happy with it. The fence is good as is the sliding table - sure, no matter what you buy there is always something better somewhere out there but I can't fault it on anything major.
    Thanks George

    Daunting it is I've spent a lot of time searching the archives and have read and re-read many posts .I also have been looking at al ot of websites .
    Most of the posts go back two three and even further years , information that maybe is out of date ,new machines ,updated models etc may have changed and may be available.
    I don't have the luxury of being able to drive 10 or 20 klms to the nearest tool supplier to view any of thses machines or see any of them in action .I live in a country town of 7,000 people ,no major tool supplies ,except for M10 , Home hardware, and a Makit hardware run by a wing nutted idiot who would know ????? from clay.Nearest big center is 300klms away with two large Bunnings outlets ,I have called them and asked about table saws ,all they can offer is the $300.00 Ryobi handyman facsimilie of a table saw.


    My money is hard earned ,and I guess it is that way with most of us ,when I buy my table saw I want to get value for money ,but also a machine that I can use and not have to spend hours on making it work .If it goes wrong then I will have to fix it myself or in a worse situation is to send it back to the place where I bought it .Freight to here for any of the machines I listed would be between $250.00 and $500.00 one way ,which eats up dollars that could be spent on other tools or materials for projects.

    As far as me being Lazy as suggested by one of the posters , lazy I am not ,
    I have done most every outside improvement to my house myself ,
    laid over 3000 pavers,and carted by wheel barrow 15 tons of fill and paving sand to lay the pavers on.
    Constucted a 9 m x 7 m workshop , mostly by myself and with my wifes help.
    I am now building a 9m x 6m extension to the workshop and will be mixing the concrete with an old cement mixer.This will be my last big concreting job ,my back is all but shot and arthritis has got into my spine and joints.
    I wonder how many city dwellers do that nowadays.Most just call the local contractor and pay the bucks ,so they can keep up with the Joneses with out the effort.


    Well any way thanks for your input , hopefully one day I'll be able to help you out, or reply with a half smart answer .
    Just remember there is no such thing as a dumb question ,just dumb people who don't ask questions.
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    Thanks Woodlee , I found your question interesting, current and very reasonable - even though I know that this is a frequently asked question. On the other hand craigb's misanthropic response is "unforumlike" . You could give him the benefit of the doubt and say that after so many contributions in the past he might be stuck in the past and be as grumpy as all getout with it?
    I'm in the market for a new 12" TS and would be glad to see some CURRENT feedback to supplement the material already researched on the forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigb View Post
    This is one of the perennial questions that pop up on this board (in fact I'm surprised that it's not a sticky at the top of the forum).

    Over the years, all aspects of it have been covered inside and out.

    All that information is in the archives.
    All you have to do is look.
    Oh no, the "do a searchers"have got Craigb

    I have left $100 in a brown envelope by the big scribbly gum.....let him go, no questions asked


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty View Post
    Thanks Woodlee , I found your question interesting, current and very reasonable - even though I know that this is a frequently asked question. On the other hand craigb's misanthropic response is "unforumlike" . You could give him the benefit of the doubt and say that after so many contributions in the past he might be stuck in the past and be as grumpy as all getout with it?
    I'm in the market for a new 12" TS and would be glad to see some CURRENT feedback to supplement the material already researched on the forum
    Not misanthropic at all.

    I merely point out that there is already A LOT of information on this topic already in the archives.

    It's nothing to do with being grumpy.

    By far and away the majority of people on this board are lurkers. Even the ones that are registered users.

    This means that there is only a relatively small pool of people to reply to these type of posts. How many times do you expect them to repeat themselves?

    And BTW, I haven't seen you doing much contributing so how do you feel able to comment on what's "forum like" and what isn't?

    Craig

    (Definitely not stuck in the past. )

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    Woodlee, I'm one of the many who are very happy with their Carbatec TSC 10HB. Although I have not had a good look at table saws in the last three years since I bought it, it has been an absolute workhorse for me with no problems at all. A great tool for the money.

    I also got the Incra Mitre SE1000 mitre gauge, and now almost never use my crosscut sled.


    Tex

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty View Post
    On the other hand craigb's misanthropic response is "unforumlike"

    Since when is the " Do a Search" admonition " unforumlike" ?

    Even the BB owner, Neil, has admonished a poster to " Do a Search", hence this has the seal of approval of the owner, but may be Salty knows better than Neil too.

    Btw if you want to know in which post Neil said it may I ever so humbly suggest that you "Do a Search."



    Peter.

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    hey Woodlee

    You will also need to know how to sharpen chisels.

    You may wish to start a new thread on that too just to be safe

    cheers and welcome.


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