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  1. #1
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    Default What TableSaw do you have?

    If you don't mind I would like to start a sort of mini comparison on what saws people have and the pro's and cons of them.

    I have a Carbatec MJ-2325B

    Pro's Cheap,

    Cons - needed an aftermarket fence to make it accurate enough

    Cheers

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    Jet Shop Pro. 10" saw, 16mm arbor so it can take standard US saw blades including a Dado set. Excellent Bisemyer style fence, probably the best fence on any Jet or Powermatic tablesaw when I bought it a couple of years ago.

    Its a 'hybrid' saw with a 2 belt transmission, enclosed cabinet (unlike a contractors saw) and it has plenty of power even tho' only rated at 1.75 HP. Pretty good dust collection too.

    I got the long rail set, so I can cross cut sheet goods up to 1200mm, and one day (soon-ish) I will get around to adding a router wing, and probably taking the legs off & mounting it on a roll around storage unit.

    Its now up to $1500 from Gary Pye, I paid around $1100 5 years ago.

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    I have the same model as you arry the MJ-2325B
    I have been very happy with it except for a slight movement when you lock the fence in place. You have to pull back on the handle and push down on it at the same time to make it stay true to the blade and not move over that fraction that it does when you try to lock it normally. Apart from that I think its good value for the money. From memory I paid around $950 for it.
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    Cheers John

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    Default Re: What TableSaw do you have?

    MBS 300 - powerful saw and with a new arbor takes a 5/8" dado - full stack.

    Very powerful
    Riving knife
    Quiet
    Very wide table which is good

    Suva guard sucks

    12" saw great for cutting thick boards but you have to make your own zero clearance inserts as you can't buy them

    Expensive

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    I've got the TSC-10HB

    Pro's: plenty of grunt, 90º and 45º accurate straight out of the box

    Cons: dust extraction sux (no pun intended), as supplied surface area is too small - do what I did and get an extra wing.

    Best thing for any c/saw or t/saw is to put a Wixey fence on it.
    I make things, I just take a long time.

    www.brandhouse.net.au

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    Quote Originally Posted by pellcorp View Post
    MBS 300 - powerful saw and with a new arbor takes a 5/8" dado - full stack.

    Very powerful
    Riving knife
    Quiet
    Very wide table which is good

    Suva guard sucks

    12" saw great for cutting thick boards but you have to make your own zero clearance inserts as you can't buy them

    Expensive

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    Default Leda tc-12

    Pros:
    • Very powerful, easily cuts 4" Jarrah
    • 12" blade
    • Very heavy and stable
    • Riving knife
    • Quiet
    • Very wide table
    • Sliding table can cut a full panel
    • accepts a dado blade


    Cons:
    • POS Suva guard
    • Difficult to make to make your own zero clearance inserts due to blade proximity to table.
    • Expensive

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    Delta Unisaw (old model)

    Pros:

    • Lots of accessories are available (but not always locally).
    • 52" Genuine Biesemeyer fence.
    • USA made.
    • Two cast iron extension wings.
    • Run-out is less than a thou at the blade perimeter (Delta grind the flange after assembly).
    • Uses a two-spanner arrangement for blade change (no need to wedge blade).
    • Runs and cuts like a dream.
    • I've fitted a Biesemeyer quick release splitter and overhead guard.

    Cons:

    • Fairly pricey.
    • No longer sold in Australia.
    • splitter rather than riving knife.
    • standard guard is a PITA to remove and refit.
    • It is not a SawStop.

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    Casolin Astra full size panel saw.
    30mm arbor, 6hp main motor, 1hp scriber motor, table as 3.2m of usable travel, 1.8m rip capacity, outrigger table stop extends to 3m.

    Pros: extremely smooth and powerful, 5" depth of cut, repeatable accuracy to .5mm, breaking down full sheets is quick and easy, can joint solid timber up to 125mm wide and 3m long in one pass.

    Cons: takes up 6m x 3.5m of shed real estate.

    Mick
    "If you need a machine today and don't buy it,

    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

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    Mick, I think you win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munruben View Post
    I have the same model as you arry the MJ-2325B
    I have been very happy with it except for a slight movement when you lock the fence in place. You have to pull back on the handle and push down on it at the same time to make it stay true to the blade and not move over that fraction that it does when you try to lock it normally. Apart from that I think its good value for the money. From memory I paid around $950 for it.

    I have one of these also and agree about the fence, mine has a twist front to back so is totally useless. Will replace it one day.

    Dust extraction is rubbish (although i only have a 1hp dusty), the supplied blade insert is rubbish (sits up to 1mm below table surface and required shimming or home made replacement) and the supplied mitre fence is rubbish (too much slop).

    But it is quiet in use and fairly solid. And reasonably priced at the moment.

    Steven.

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    Same as Chrisp, a US made Delta. No longer sold here but does all I want a saw to do.
    Great fence and very accurate. Takes a dado set. It is a contractors saw but has a slide below that collects the sawdust. I do not use extraction on it.
    Regards
    John

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    1950's Craftsman

    Pros: cheap, $40us at auction
    takes 10" blades and dados
    compact
    cast iron table

    Cons: Underpowered 3/4 hp
    Craftsman mitre slots are a different, ever so slightly, size
    ordinary fence

    I'm in the market for a new saw as I have to do all our kitchen and laundry cabinetry.

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    MJ2325B

    Pros: 3hp motor
    Cast iron wings
    Heavy - won't move when something heavy is cut
    Reasonable entry level saw - price wise - best I could do
    Uses a spanner and locking bar to change blade
    Riving knife moves with blade

    Cons: DE had to improve to be classed as lousy
    Fence is reasonable but requires 2 hands to be used to be consistent
    Throat plate was below surface - packed up with fridge magnet material to level
    Can't fit a zero clearance plate as supplied plate is only a few mm thick - needs further thought on my part
    Can't fit a dado set
    Rise/fall gears need frequent cleaning to avoid jams - not as much since the DE improvements
    Needed to remove riving knife to make non through cuts as it is above the blade - now fixed by slotting the mounting holes
    Concertina hose inside the cabinet catches more dust than it passes - fixed by using a "super flex 4" hose
    Blade guard dust hose is too short and catches material as you cut it - fixed and changed - size and mounting
    Micro fence adjuster - not all teeth engage all of the time - not bothered with

    Far more cons than pros but it can and has been improved to a large degree - I guess it depends on your time and inclination

    For example

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f200/s...vement-115255/

    Regards,
    Bob

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    I had an MJ232, but I upgraded to a second hand 3 phase Hammer C3-31 combination.

    Pros
    Very powerful
    Pretty quiet
    Good dust extraction
    Quite accurate
    Great sliding table with accurate angel adjustment
    Don't need a crosscut sled or 45 degree sled
    Very heavy and stable
    On wheels
    Small footprint for capacity

    Cons
    Rip fence is not solid and accurate. Need to fix this but haven't worked out how yet.
    Haven't got a guard for the blade. Need to fix this too.
    Haven't got the dado arbor.
    Don't get to use it often enough...
    Bob C.

    Never give up.

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