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Thread: What TableSaw do you have?
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19th February 2011, 05:17 PM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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What TableSaw do you have?
If you don't mind I would like to start a sort of mini comparison on what saws people have and the pro's and cons of them.
I have a Carbatec MJ-2325B
Pro's Cheap,
Cons - needed an aftermarket fence to make it accurate enough
Cheers
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19th February 2011, 07:33 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Jet Shop Pro. 10" saw, 16mm arbor so it can take standard US saw blades including a Dado set. Excellent Bisemyer style fence, probably the best fence on any Jet or Powermatic tablesaw when I bought it a couple of years ago.
Its a 'hybrid' saw with a 2 belt transmission, enclosed cabinet (unlike a contractors saw) and it has plenty of power even tho' only rated at 1.75 HP. Pretty good dust collection too.
I got the long rail set, so I can cross cut sheet goods up to 1200mm, and one day (soon-ish) I will get around to adding a router wing, and probably taking the legs off & mounting it on a roll around storage unit.
Its now up to $1500 from Gary Pye, I paid around $1100 5 years ago.
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19th February 2011, 09:12 PM #3
I have the same model as you arry the MJ-2325B
I have been very happy with it except for a slight movement when you lock the fence in place. You have to pull back on the handle and push down on it at the same time to make it stay true to the blade and not move over that fraction that it does when you try to lock it normally. Apart from that I think its good value for the money. From memory I paid around $950 for it.Reality is no background music.
Cheers John
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23rd February 2011, 03:45 PM #4
Re: What TableSaw do you have?
MBS 300 - powerful saw and with a new arbor takes a 5/8" dado - full stack.
Very powerful
Riving knife
Quiet
Very wide table which is good
Suva guard sucks
12" saw great for cutting thick boards but you have to make your own zero clearance inserts as you can't buy them
Expensive
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23rd February 2011, 04:27 PM #5
I've got the TSC-10HB
Pro's: plenty of grunt, 90º and 45º accurate straight out of the box
Cons: dust extraction sux (no pun intended), as supplied surface area is too small - do what I did and get an extra wing.
Best thing for any c/saw or t/saw is to put a Wixey fence on it.
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23rd February 2011, 05:20 PM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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23rd February 2011, 05:27 PM #7
Leda tc-12
Pros:
- Very powerful, easily cuts 4" Jarrah
- 12" blade
- Very heavy and stable
- Riving knife
- Quiet
- Very wide table
- Sliding table can cut a full panel
- accepts a dado blade
Cons:
- POS Suva guard
- Difficult to make to make your own zero clearance inserts due to blade proximity to table.
- Expensive
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23rd February 2011, 09:52 PM #8
Delta Unisaw (old model)
Pros:
- Lots of accessories are available (but not always locally).
- 52" Genuine Biesemeyer fence.
- USA made.
- Two cast iron extension wings.
- Run-out is less than a thou at the blade perimeter (Delta grind the flange after assembly).
- Uses a two-spanner arrangement for blade change (no need to wedge blade).
- Runs and cuts like a dream.
- I've fitted a Biesemeyer quick release splitter and overhead guard.
Cons:
- Fairly pricey.
- No longer sold in Australia.
- splitter rather than riving knife.
- standard guard is a PITA to remove and refit.
- It is not a SawStop.
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24th February 2011, 03:07 AM #9
Casolin Astra full size panel saw.
30mm arbor, 6hp main motor, 1hp scriber motor, table as 3.2m of usable travel, 1.8m rip capacity, outrigger table stop extends to 3m.
Pros: extremely smooth and powerful, 5" depth of cut, repeatable accuracy to .5mm, breaking down full sheets is quick and easy, can joint solid timber up to 125mm wide and 3m long in one pass.
Cons: takes up 6m x 3.5m of shed real estate.
Mick"If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
- Henry Ford 1938
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24th February 2011, 07:41 AM #10SENIOR MEMBER
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Mick, I think you win.
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27th February 2011, 09:00 PM #11
I have one of these also and agree about the fence, mine has a twist front to back so is totally useless. Will replace it one day.
Dust extraction is rubbish (although i only have a 1hp dusty), the supplied blade insert is rubbish (sits up to 1mm below table surface and required shimming or home made replacement) and the supplied mitre fence is rubbish (too much slop).
But it is quiet in use and fairly solid. And reasonably priced at the moment.
Steven.
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8th March 2011, 11:45 PM #12
Same as Chrisp, a US made Delta. No longer sold here but does all I want a saw to do.
Great fence and very accurate. Takes a dado set. It is a contractors saw but has a slide below that collects the sawdust. I do not use extraction on it.
Regards
John
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9th March 2011, 06:31 PM #13Senior Member
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1950's Craftsman
Pros: cheap, $40us at auction
takes 10" blades and dados
compact
cast iron table
Cons: Underpowered 3/4 hp
Craftsman mitre slots are a different, ever so slightly, size
ordinary fence
I'm in the market for a new saw as I have to do all our kitchen and laundry cabinetry.
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10th March 2011, 10:34 AM #14GOLD MEMBER
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MJ2325B
Pros: 3hp motor
Cast iron wings
Heavy - won't move when something heavy is cut
Reasonable entry level saw - price wise - best I could do
Uses a spanner and locking bar to change blade
Riving knife moves with blade
Cons: DE had to improve to be classed as lousy
Fence is reasonable but requires 2 hands to be used to be consistent
Throat plate was below surface - packed up with fridge magnet material to level
Can't fit a zero clearance plate as supplied plate is only a few mm thick - needs further thought on my part
Can't fit a dado set
Rise/fall gears need frequent cleaning to avoid jams - not as much since the DE improvements
Needed to remove riving knife to make non through cuts as it is above the blade - now fixed by slotting the mounting holes
Concertina hose inside the cabinet catches more dust than it passes - fixed by using a "super flex 4" hose
Blade guard dust hose is too short and catches material as you cut it - fixed and changed - size and mounting
Micro fence adjuster - not all teeth engage all of the time - not bothered with
Far more cons than pros but it can and has been improved to a large degree - I guess it depends on your time and inclination
For example
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f200/s...vement-115255/
Regards,
Bob
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10th March 2011, 01:31 PM #15
I had an MJ232, but I upgraded to a second hand 3 phase Hammer C3-31 combination.
Pros
Very powerful
Pretty quiet
Good dust extraction
Quite accurate
Great sliding table with accurate angel adjustment
Don't need a crosscut sled or 45 degree sled
Very heavy and stable
On wheels
Small footprint for capacity
Cons
Rip fence is not solid and accurate. Need to fix this but haven't worked out how yet.
Haven't got a guard for the blade. Need to fix this too.
Haven't got the dado arbor.
Don't get to use it often enough...Bob C.
Never give up.
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