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    Hi guys,

    Long time lurker first time poster :P. I've just picked up a GPW 10" table saw for my new "office", but I'm having problems adjusting both bevel stops. The manual is not very clear on how this should be done, it suggests to loosen the red handle at the front and make the required adjustments. This I have tried countless times and its made no difference to the bevel stops, even with the bolt almost removed from the thread.

    1. How do I go about adjusting the stops?.

    2. When assembling the fence, the manual tells me to use 2 of the black bolts on the front rail and 2 on the back. If I do this the fence won't slide past them. Only solution I can see is using the screws front and bolts at the back.

    3. My throat inserts set/grub screws are all different lengths and the plate is warped upwards in the middle, is this normal?

    4. Both castings on the hand wheels are very badly pitted and poorly painted, is this normal?

    5. I need to adjust the fence square to the table, but one of the adjustment screws I need to adjust is covered by a sticker, remove the sticker? The fence is very uneven across its width. (Right fence face is lower than left by at least 1mm)

    6. When locked down tightly both hand wheels still move very easily (allowing the angle to change sometimes by a degree) compared to the Woodman SB12 I tried before this saw.


    Thanks very much in advance, It's probably all user error.

    Cheers,
    Benjamin.

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    Hi Benjamin, welcome to the forums.
    The red handle at the front is a bevel angle lock not a stop. Back it off, adjust the blade angle then lock it up tight. Should solve No.6 as well.
    1) The travel stops are two grub screws in the surface of the table. Mine doesn't have any screws in them and I haven't bothered to get any. I haven't needed them. Another member bought two screws to install in the stops. I may have misplaced them when I unpacked the saw but I'm not too concerned. I use a digital angle gauge to set the blade.
    2) As long as it's bolted solidly I don't think it matters which bolts go where. Do whatever works... I just checked mine, countersunk screws on the front and socket head screws at the back.
    3) I would say no. My plate is flat with all the same length screws, however I rarely use it as I made zero clearance inserts. I would contact GPW about that one.
    4) My castings are clean and well painted. Again, contact GPW.
    5) I think I poked a hole through the sticker on mine.

    Good luck and let us know how you get on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FluxDesign View Post
    Hi guys,

    Long time lurker first time poster :P. I've just picked up a GPW 10" table saw for my new "office", but I'm having problems adjusting both bevel stops. The manual is not very clear on how this should be done, it suggests to loosen the red handle at the front and make the required adjustments. This I have tried countless times and its made no difference to the bevel stops, even with the bolt almost removed from the thread.

    1. How do I go about adjusting the stops?.

    2. When assembling the fence, the manual tells me to use 2 of the black bolts on the front rail and 2 on the back. If I do this the fence won't slide past them. Only solution I can see is using the screws front and bolts at the back.

    3. My throat inserts set/grub screws are all different lengths and the plate is warped upwards in the middle, is this normal?

    4. Both castings on the hand wheels are very badly pitted and poorly painted, is this normal?

    5. I need to adjust the fence square to the table, but one of the adjustment screws I need to adjust is covered by a sticker, remove the sticker? The fence is very uneven across its width. (Right fence face is lower than left by at least 1mm)

    6. When locked down tightly both hand wheels still move very easily (allowing the angle to change sometimes by a degree) compared to the Woodman SB12 I tried before this saw.


    Thanks very much in advance, It's probably all user error.

    Cheers,
    Benjamin.
    I have this saw and I don't have any of these issues. I would be ringing Gary Pye about your concerns. Both my own personal experience and the things I read about him lead me to believe that he is a thoroughly honest dealer and would be very happy to hear from you.
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    I've just assembled one of these - bought from Major woodworking but the same saw. I found all of these issues the same.

    1. same. Can't see how to adjust the stops. Not mentioned in manual. Manual appears to be missing large sections as it refers internally to sections that arent there.
    2. Use the allen key bolts at the back, and the screws at the front, but note there are two different threads, one thread for the ones which go into the table and a different thread for the ones which go into the wings - even though all bots/screws are the same diameter. Works fine when this is realised.
    3. same, warped in the middle and barely usable.
    4. mine are plated, but scratched and oddly worn looking. Doesnt worry me.
    5. same. just pierced the paper. Also, initially about 2mm difference. After loosening/retightening the screws on the side its now about 1mm.
    6. same. worse then useless - no holding ability at all.
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    Hi guys,

    Sorry for the long time between posts, been very busy at work.

    I've since had more time with the saw and am still unable to locate any bolts or bolt holes in surface of the table to adjust the angle stops. I have since found that the main table is very very badly warped/bent upwards near the insert plate and as such is basically unusable. After all the reading I did and the good words surrounding this saw, I am very disappointed in the over all quality of the saw.

    My concerns have been voiced to GPW, I'm awaiting a reply. Being that I live in brisbane and don;t own a trailer or ute, I'm expecting to have to shell out again (ute hire) to return the saw.

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    Previous versions of the same saw had two holes inthe table - just in front of the blade slot. Mine is like yours, it doesnt - so like you i am baffled about how to adjust the stops - unfathomable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arron View Post
    Previous versions of the same saw had two holes inthe table - just in front of the blade slot. Mine is like yours, it doesnt - so like you i am baffled about how to adjust the stops - unfathomable.

    Found it!!. There's two stop collars on the bevel shaft(?) Sadly, I loosened mine up and moved the collar out of the way and still can't get it a perfect 45 degree's. I'm reluctant to do any further adjustments until I've heard from GPW regarding the lump in my table top. The top may have to be swapped and I'll be doing all the adjustments all over again.

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    Moanings,

    Just rang GPW and spoke with one of the guys, I think his name was Kevin. All problems have been solved and some information gleamed.

    1. The stops are adjusted by loosening the stop collars on the bevel shaft. Look through the hole at the front of the saw (where the hand wheel is), the 45 degree stop can be seen with the blade at 90. The 90 degree stop is on the far left of the shaft, looking in from the front.
    This seems to be the way most north American saws are configured and makes more sense than bolts in the table.

    2, Cap screws at the back, counter sunk at the front.

    3, GPW are swapping mine out with one from the showroom, it was also warped but the guys managed to get it flat by flexing it slightly. I would contact GPW directly if this doesn't help or your insert is bad.

    4. My wheels are coming off and going down to the gold coast to be compared with the ones in the showroom, if those are better I can swap them.

    5. I was told to go ahead and cut out a small circle of the sticker, the sticker is placed there because there is nowhere else to put it.

    6. I'm about to remove my Bevel locking bolt, take measurements and email them down to GPW. They have had one or two end up with a locking bolt where the thread is slightly too short. Again being replaced with the one from the showroom.

    Now the problems with my main table, this one was easy for GPW to sort out. No issues, arguing, or telling me I damaged it. The table is being changed on Thursday, you guessed it with the one from the showroom floor.

    Also as a side note, my wife was playing with amazon last night. I ordered a Freud SD208, Forrest Woodworker II 10-Inch 40-tooth ATB .100 Kerf Saw Blade, and a Wixey WR300 Digital Angle Gauge. Came up cheaper than buying carba tec and CMT branded stuff even with shipping. I was hoping to get a Deluxe A line it kit but the genuine article is more expensive than the carba tec version which looks to be the same creature. All this good stuff got shipped out this morning after only ordering it 10 hours before. Should be here on the 8th.

    Who's a happy woodie? I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FluxDesign View Post
    Moanings,

    Just rang GPW and spoke with one of the guys, I think his name was Kevin. All problems have been solved and some information gleamed.

    1. The stops are adjusted by loosening the stop collars on the bevel shaft. Look through the hole at the front of the saw (where the hand wheel is), the 45 degree stop can be seen with the blade at 90. The 90 degree stop is on the far left of the shaft, looking in from the front.
    This seems to be the way most north American saws are configured and makes more sense than bolts in the table.
    Thanks for that. It makes sense.
    Pleased to hear you're happy. Mine is coming along nicely too.
    For anyone reading this in the future - the bevel shaft is called the tilt shaft in my manual, and its item no 79.
    cheers
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    bugger well I am not going to say this hasn't got me a little concerned about the quality I thought I read or someone said they check all their saws before they send them out, I was actually thinking of putting in an order this or next week when my tax is in with GPW but don't really want to have to run back and forth from Brisbane with issues good to hear they are sorting it out though Flux.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillyInBris View Post
    bugger well I am not going to say this hasn't got me a little concerned about the quality I thought I read or someone said they check all their saws before they send them out, I was actually thinking of putting in an order this or next week when my tax is in with GPW but don't really want to have to run back and forth from Brisbane with issues good to hear they are sorting it out though Flux.
    I bought one and mine was and is just perfect straight out of the box. So far as I know GPW has sold heaps of them and continues to do so. If I was getting another saw I would not hesitate to go back and get another saw (or in fact any other product) from GPW. What is very instructive here is that while one of the people in this thread had a problem,the staff at GPW actually cared enough to do something real about it. You can buy machinery at any price and from any source and have a problem with it. But it is nice to know that if you do that the business will be honourable to deal with. As for checking every saw, I doubt that they do that. Mine came from the store in the case it was packed in in the factory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chook View Post
    I bought one and mine was and is just perfect straight out of the box. So far as I know GPW has sold heaps of them and continues to do so. If I was getting another saw I would not hesitate to go back and get another saw (or in fact any other product) from GPW. What is very instructive here is that while one of the people in this thread had a problem,the staff at GPW actually cared enough to do something real about it. You can buy machinery at any price and from any source and have a problem with it. But it is nice to know that if you do that the business will be honourable to deal with. As for checking every saw, I doubt that they do that. Mine came from the store in the case it was packed in in the factory.
    Your right chook and I agree after thinking about a bit its good to see someone setting a standard not just in pricing but service as well.

    I dropped into Gregory Machinery today on the way home just for a look, hadn't been there for many a year and they had the same saw as the GPW anyway Landen one of the guys came over and showed me through the machine talked a little about it advised if i was to buy one to silastic up the box underneath as it leaks a bit of air but other wise a fantastic saw in its price range.

    So anyway to cut a long story short I have the saw with a couple of scrathes from getting it off the UTE .
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    Ive been humming and ah-ing about getting a saw in this range/price. I thought the GPW would be nice, but I'm a bit put off that a piece of precision machinery comes so bent out of shape from the box.

    There are three other models I am looking at. I was going to start a thread as its terribly important that I get this purchase right (I have very limited moola at the moment). To make a mistake would be terrible.

    Anyone with buyers remorse?

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    fluxdesign
    How did you go with the tightening the hand wheels?

    I was ripping some leftover bits the other day and discovered mine had tilted with both the handwheels tight and also the front lock bolt tight (One right up under the table.) Annoyingly I ripped 2m of jarrah I need before I realised and will be probably too thin after I plane it level.

    I tightened the springloaded screw at the back as well and really tightened the front lock (overdone I think) It seemed to lock into position ok, but I really think it's overtightened. I'm interested in what your results may have been.

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    Hey guys,

    I have my new table and all that but I've had some family issues that have prevented Me from assembling the unit and testing it until tonight.

    Lee Roy,

    I have done the same as you have, but I find the bevel tilt wheel will still move. I am unsure of what else that can be done, Gary assured me tightening the spring loaded bolt would fix it, you may also have a locking bolt that is a few threads too short.

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