Thread: What type of saw is this?

Dear Denim,

It looks like some kind of Radial Arm Saw, but instead of the arm moving above a stationary table on a stand, it's got a mitre gauge to set the cross-cut angle with. I guess the idea must be to make the thing portable through mimimalism. It would effectively replace an SCMS (Sliding Compound Mitre Saw) in ability, but with greater capacity, and not as much portability, nor practicality - since the timber has to chase the mitre gauge around. As far as I can figure, it wont replace a Table Saw for you, though. Might be very darn handy however. A good SCMS can cost anything up to a thousand dollars, would probably be much noisier, and couldn't cross-cut anywhere near as wide. It's accuracy is something you'll just have to find out for yourself however - could be a weak point.

Any thoughts anyone else?..

Best Wishes,
Batpig.

Looks like a masons saw for cutting stone slabs etc. I think you will find it would have had a stand as a option

Blade rotation direction looks dodgy ,it would tend to lift what ever you were trying to cut , except maybe a stone slab like China suggests.

Kev.

Thansk for the info guys. I've tried searching online for the name printed in the motor (Eumenia) and I've only found references to people asking if they are an okay saw. The only other thing I have found is this http://www.leesidetools.co.uk/radial_arm_saws1.htm which has a photo of a very similar one on a stand which was sold as a Eumenia M50L/300 Saw, 8.3/4" Blade, Festo Mitre Fence, with Stand. Although that doesn't mean much to me a the moment.

Originally Posted by Denim

Hey guys,

I have put out the word to my family about needing tools for my new hobby and my father (ever the great hoarder) has given me this saw (amongst other miscellaneous tools). I'm not sure what type of saw it is or whether it would be useful for what I need so I thought I'd ask if anyone knows anything about them. The saw is designed to sit on the ground which would be quite a pain after a while so I'm not sure whether I could customise it to suit my needs.

Any thoughts, advice or information would be greatly appreciated.

Denim.

It is a Radial Arm saw from what I understand. See this:"http://forums.ukworkshop.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=662&sid=c4c64a0c9a927be651687791458d54d3"

Interesting looking machine, but being free doesn't mean cheap or worth using. It looks fussy to adjust, bulky and IMO would need more renovation work than would be warranted. That's a personal call of course - if you have the time & inclination go ahead, but if you are after tools for your new hobby as you said I would be buying some new ones.

pretty darn sure it is a mason's saw, this would explain the badly rusted blade, is it a diamond blade, if it is a mason's saw it will not be acurate enough for wood working

The poor condition of the saw is the result of my Dad storing it outside in the weather. Thankfully I'm about to pick up a band saw from him in excellent condition which I will be using. The only probabem is that it weights so much so I'll only be moving it once.

I think I agree with Boss on this one. Probably not worth the time to play with. I'll just store it for now to save it getting any further damaged at Dad's place. He can have it back when he needs it again.

Thanks very much for the input guys. Really appreciate your thoughts.


Denim.

It's a radial arm saw. I have one which I use regularly for cross-cutting, but mine's in a bit better condition! They stopped distributing them here in the UK a few years ago. There should be a coated Plywood base which sits on the frame as per any other radial arm saw and mine also has legs on which the framework in your photo sits. they come with a pretty good Festool mitre fence and I also have a seperate holder for routers and a mians drill. They're great for cutting boards up 60cm wide which is what I use it most for, I originally bought it whn the workshop was in the cellar the other advantage being they are usually really quiet. It might be worth cutting a piece of ply to fit and attaching an aftermarket fence.

Paul

Eumenia used to advertise in a lot of the English magazines about ten or twelve years ago. Their ads reckoned that they were the ducks nuts but then again which ad doesn't.
Clean it up and make a table for it should be alright. I guess the main thing is whether fixing it up will be fun for you or a pain the the neck. From memory they were a pretty expensive saw.

Ben

Mine cost about £700 new about 7 years ago the main competitors here are the DeWalts which are still going strong but a bit more expensive for the same width of crosscut

Paul

its a eumenia and i have one in my workshop i would not be without it it cuts tennons ,rips, cross cuts, rebates i also have the bigger head saw which cuts 41/4" with ease also overhead router and drill press it can accommodate most routers i find it extremely accurrate and easy to use the small saw you have uses a washing machine motor unusual but very quite and smooth

Originally Posted by bracken joiners

its a eumenia and i have one in my workshop i would not be without it it cuts tennons ,rips, cross cuts, rebates i also have the bigger head saw which cuts 41/4" with ease also overhead router and drill press it can accommodate most routers i find it extremely accurrate and easy to use the small saw you have uses a washing machine motor unusual but very quite and smooth

Thanks for the info braken joiners. I've put the bugger aside for a while. Don't really have the time to clean it up (nor the space) but I look forward to experimenting with it when I do.

Denim

congratulations denim ur the owner of an eumenia 600 radial arm saw cross cut of 600 mm 0r 24" old money .
stopped making them years ago . they were designed for site use mainly and the 300 version is smaller obviously .ive got the 300 type and is in my van and gets a lot of use.
your one is missing a few things like the table top but i think you had to but that seperate , well you did in the uk. they alsoused to do a carriage for router and sanding attatchments , was and is a good tool for those who couldnt afford an elu or dewalt type saw, or where space was at a premium i do set up in my garage and beleive me garages over here are for 1 car so 9 x20 is the norm .
there only let down with the 300 version was its rigidity but mines been sorted on that point.yours should be rigid on its run from one end to the other. as PAUL D has said there good, clean it up and have a play i think u might be surprised it does doe all that the other rad saws do so u can rip on it mitre and dado too ...so give it a go and experiment