Thread: Upgrade from Triton

I have some small experience of these two saws having used one in a school were I worked for a short time. The fence is not very nice to use at all. The rest of the machine is okay but the fence is so bad it makes using the thing difficult.

Thanks Chook for the feedback. Was the fence simply inaccurate or just difficult to use?

Just realised I used the wrong link it should be this one for the SB-12 W452 | SB-12 Table Saw | machineryhouse.com.au

Originally Posted by Tiger

Just realised I used the wrong link it should be this one for the SB-12 W452 | SB-12 Table Saw | machineryhouse.com.au

I upgraded from triton to the sb12 in october last year and I am very happy with it. I never put the rip fence on it and upgraded straight to incra fence. there was a small issue with mounting the cast iron wings flat with teh table top but i drilled and tapped some m6 holes and inserted grub screws which made it fully adjustable and I think its the best value for money out there if you are handy enough to set it up right.

I do similar things to you Tiger, boxes, small furniture etc and it is more than adequate for the job.

Doug

Thanks Doug so apart from the fence it is ok. How does it perform on accuracy? What is actually wrong with the fence? One other question how much was the Incra and have you used a dado stack with it?

hi Tiger.

I didnt say anything was wrong with the fence. I didnt put it on the saw as I wanted the incra anyway to be compatible with the router table and I have an Incra mitre guage. I never even opened the box the fence came in and sold it on the forum market place. as far as I know the purchaser was very happy with it.

Accuracy is fine! the saw came out of the box with the blade (when fitted) exactly parallel to the mitre tracks. when tilting the blade I rely on a magnetic angle guage rather than the printed scale on the side of the table body. You will be impressed with (and possibly a little intimidated by) the height of the blade above the table compared to the Triton. when you are used to a triton 9 1/4 inch blade this has a very impressive increase in cutting capability.

the biggest issue I had was the cast iron extension tables not sitting quite flat with the main top, but a 15 minute modification and that was fixed.

I havent used a dado blade in it yet but I want to get one soon. the saw comes with a dado throat plate.

Anything else I can help with please feel free to ask.

Doug

Thanks Doug that sounds very positive, I may have assumed the fence was bad because of Chook's post and the fact that a few people went and bought an aftermarket fence. There is a sale on these types of saws at the moment and I just wanted to get some quick feedback before I bought one and yes the height of the blade is impressive, do you use it much for resawing and does the motor handle it ok?

Tiger,

The reasons I did not even open the box with the fence in it were twofold, firstly I wanted the Incra for the compatibility with my other workstations and the repeatability of being able to dial in an exact repeat of a previous cut, and secondly to preserve its resale value.

If That is you too then do the same, but if not dont rule this fence out. Only you can decide what you want to do but just because I decided based on my own circumstances doesnt mean it is either right or wrong for you. I got $150 for the fence which came with the saw, which I thought was fair, and the buyer told me he was very happy with it and he has some very impressive photos of his work in his profile. I guess I am saying that a forum member with quite a few credible projects under his belt was happy to UPGRADE to the supplied fence.

As for the capability of the saw itself and your specific questions, you realise it requires 15 amp power? This is about as good as you get without 3 phase 415 volts.

If you dont have 15 amp outlets, or dont know how to identify a 15 amp outlet send me a PM. Surprisingly many people, even woodworkers do not know.

This thing resaws the thickest hardest wood I have thrown at it, and that is some very tough pieces. when you take into consideration that if you flip the workpiece over and resaw again you can get a depth of cut to rival a smaller bandsaw without any of the drift issues that may come with small bandsaws and the thin blades you need to use on them.

Accuracy on a table saw equates to a flat rigid horizontal surface to reference off being intersected by a cutting instrument which can be oriented relative to the table to make the required cut. This saw provides the reference surface and the flexibility to align the cutting instrument to achieve the desired result as well as anything I have seen. THe incra gear provides the other reference surface to perfect the cut, but then for many users so would the supplied fence. Many are sucked in by enclosed cabinets and fancy coloured paint but what I said before is what it all breaks down to. If you do decide to go with an Incra fence and even if not you would do well to replace the mitre guage that comes with the table and there are none better than an Incra: like most included mitre guages it is not very good.

Cheers

Doug

I have this saw and mine did not come with a 15amp plug, nor does it require a 15amp circuit. I run mine in conjunction with a 2hp dust extractor all off a 10 amp circuit.

Originally Posted by nummins

I have this saw and mine did not come with a 15amp plug, nor does it require a 15amp circuit. I run mine in conjunction with a 2hp dust extractor all off a 10 amp circuit.

Hi Nummins,

what you are saying is indeed possible but as they say "dont try this at home". It is possible and even legal for an electrician to install a circuit that exceeds the specifications it is put there for. there are many 10amp circuits with sufficiently thick wiring to support 15 or even 20 amp appliances but have 10 amp sockets on them.

I am not sure of the regulations in all states but I believe that in Queensland a 15 amp circuit can be installed with up to 6 plugs and there is nothing to stop an electrician putting in 15 amp or higher rated cable with 10 amp sockets on it.

I do not know what power supply has been installed in your workshop but if it will handle a 3hp table saw and a 2hp dusty running simultaneously on the same circuit its not a 10 amp circuit. It must have a circuit breaker or fuze a hell of a lot higher than 10 amps to support the running of those two items alone.

Under normal circumstances the fuse will protect you from overloads by blowing before the wires overheat and set your shed on fire.

I hope for your sake that it isnt a 10 amp circuit with a 20 amp fuze on it because if that is the case the wiring may overheat and burn down your shed before the fuze blows.

I think you are living on borrowed time. good luck with your future

Doug

Originally Posted by doug3030

Hi Nummins,

what you are saying is indeed possible but as they say "dont try this at home". It is possible and even legal for an electrician to install a circuit that exceeds the specifications it is put there for. there are many 10amp circuits with sufficiently thick wiring to support 15 or even 20 amp appliances but have 10 amp sockets on them.

I am not sure of the regulations in all states but I believe that in Queensland a 15 amp circuit can be installed with up to 6 plugs and there is nothing to stop an electrician putting in 15 amp or higher rated cable with 10 amp sockets on it.

I do not know what power supply has been installed in your workshop but if it will handle a 3hp table saw and a 2hp dusty running simultaneously on the same circuit its not a 10 amp circuit. It must have a circuit breaker or fuze a hell of a lot higher than 10 amps to support the running of those two items alone.

Under normal circumstances the fuse will protect you from overloads by blowing before the wires overheat and set your shed on fire.

I hope for your sake that it isnt a 10 amp circuit with a 20 amp fuze on it because if that is the case the wiring may overheat and burn down your shed before the fuze blows.

I think you are living on borrowed time. good luck with your future

Doug

The saw is only rated at 2hp. It is sold with a 10amp plug. The manual says 10amps. The sticker on the motor says 10 amps. Did your saw come with a 15 amp plug? Many members on this forum have this saw, so far you are the only one to claim it is 15amps.

I would not have bought it if it was 2hp. Yes it came with a 15 amp plug.

Are you looking at the corrected link Tiger postecd to the SB12 or the original link he posted in the first thread in error to a 10 inch tablesaw which is 2 hp?

Pretty sure my garage is not equipped to handle the 15 amp plug so not sure about this choice.

Originally Posted by doug3030

hi Tiger.

I havent used a dado blade in it yet but I want to get one soon. the saw comes with a dado throat plate.

Anything else I can help with please feel free to ask.

Doug

Just checked with 2 Hare and Forbes salesmen, they have said that it will not take dado blades .