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  1. 12th June 2017, 04:12 PM #1
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    Default Jointers, blades and HP

    I'm in the market for a jointer and have been trawling eBay and gumtree and have seen some pretty iffy units for sale particularly ones that have a cheap spray can paint job and are always bought from the original owner All except one have been 6".

    Looking at new units, I'd like a 200mm - 8" but I've descided on a 150/153 - 6" due to space and cost (also thinking about a thicknesser).

    I don't want a bench top unit as the bed appears to be too short so I've decided on a floor model with a bed length of 1170/1180mm.

    However I have a question re the specs. All the bench top units have 2 blades and a 1.5hp motor while the floor units have 3 blades but a 1.0 hp motor? Why the lower HP? Is it due to it having 3 blades or is it just cost?

    The Carbatec floor unit has a full cabinet and the HF unit has an open table but is $420 cheaper but appears to have a different bed height adjustment - has anyone got one that can comment.

    Regarding thicknesser - I was reading comment and reviews and read a "con" re the Dewalt 735 family. Apparantely the blades are pinned in place therefore they cannot be sharpened. This means new blsdes when they get blunt or damaged. Does anyone know if this is correct

    Thanks for any replies.
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    Re the motor difference, its because the bench top model uses a brushed motor and needs more power than the floor model, that has a more conventional induction motor.
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    In regards to the thicky, I believe this is one of the benefits. As the blade just pops in theres little messing about to get the blades lined up.
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    At $99 for 3 blades, is expensive compared to a number of sharpenings.
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    IIRC the blades are also reversible which is not an option for regular thicknesser blades
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    You are correct, the blades are reversible
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    I believe the cutter head in the Dewalt can be replaced with a spiral helix from what I've read, probably a large outlay initially but they're supposed to be quieter, produce a better result and more economical in terms of longevity aren't they?

    From what I've read, I'm yet to make the jump to buying a thicknesser
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    Spiral would be good, but a big investment. $850 for a Shelix and $695 for a CTS that suit the Dewalt.
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    I wouldn't imagine a helical head would make a huge difference on the Dewalt, the brushed motors tend to scream a fair bit.
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    Bueller, are the Dewalt units noisier than other lunchbox thicknesser? I haven't heard a Dewalt but I've heard a GMC unit and it was tolerable.
    Checking induction units, $1500 is the cheapest at the moment and it's a 15" unit.
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    https://www.amazon.com/Byrd-Tool-She.../dp/B008CS2QAE

    Could get one off ebay for about $585 aud + shipping, and bought over by Ausposts US address service
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    I wouldn't imagine they'd be any worse than a GMC, probably a little bit less even as the build quality on the Dewalt would be better. I think I just have a weird thing about brushed machines, they hit some frequency that just does my head in.
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    G'Day Lappa, I have the Dewalt 735 machine.
    It was way quieter than my old 2 blade bench top machine.
    The original blades lasted me something like 4years before I upgraded to my Byrd Shelix cutterhead.
    The Byrd cutterhead is quiet enough to hold a conversation beside it while running 250mm iron bark boards through it.
    The finish the Byrd cutterhead gives is that of an already sanded finish.
    I was very pleased with the upgrade from the old bench top 2 blade machine to the Dewalt 3 blade machine BUT with the Byrd cutterhead, I'm over the moon...
    Cheers, crowie
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    Thanks Crowie. More good info to digest. Who did you buy the Byrd unit from?
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    The bloke from Bundaberg who was at the Sydney Wood Show - Robert Gregory - Woodcraft Supplies.

    If you're up the lower mountains, I'd be happy to give you a demo...

    There's a Dewalt machine in the For Sale Market Place that's a pretty good price...
    Mine originally came with a second/spare set of blades which I never used...

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