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24th January 2015, 04:55 PM #1.
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Old School 24" 3Phase thicknesser
Guys from the Manning Mens shed spent last sunday partially dismantling an old 24" wide Wilson Thicknesser in preparation of getting it out of the previous owner's shed.
Today we went back to move it from the shed to the driveway in preparation for a rear lift truck pickup next week.
The shed door is 1m wide and after removing the cutter and drive head assembly and the drive gearbox on the side we had 50 mm clearance at the door.
We could just lift one end of the reduced weight thicknesser with a small but very manoeuvrable 400 kg lift pallet lifter.
This enabled us to get the thicknesser up on blocks to get a full size pallet lifter underneath it.
The thicknesser belonged to the husband of the lady in the photo and we will be naming it "Tom" after her husband.
Then using the pallet lifter we moved the unit out of the shed, across a brick paved patio to a step about 150 mm down to a brick paving path where we placed a pallet.
Unfortunately the path (and hence pallet) had to be placed at at an angle to the step and so we bridged the angled gap with bricks and ply, until the top of the pallet was level with the top of the step which enabled us to just roll the pallet and pallet lifter straight onto the pallet.
Then we transferred the pallet lifter to the pallet and moved the whole lot out to the driveway.
Here is a photo of part of the motor, cutting head and drive assembly and gearbox, which is all gear driven.
The motor is ∆/Y 7.5HP unit
Close up of the label.
Getting this back up and running is going to be a major project
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24th January 2015, 05:51 PM #2
Nice score. I take my hat off to you and your helpers, it only takes the SMALLEST rock to stop one of those pallet jacks. Still it will be worth it when you get that up and running.
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24th January 2015, 06:28 PM #3
Nice job. Keep us posted with photos of the restoration.
…..Live a Quiet Life & Work with your Hands
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24th January 2015, 08:20 PM #4
That's a bit of a beast!!!
Good to see an older machine being brought back to life again.
Steven.
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3rd February 2015, 10:25 PM #5Woodswarf
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Square cutter block? Start investigating a helix one, or at least get a round one made. Square blocks are death traps.
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3rd February 2015, 11:13 PM #6
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3rd February 2015, 11:22 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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3rd February 2015, 11:44 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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Square heads were outlawed a long time ago due to the amount of trauma suffered if u did touch the spinning head. These days, the european CE standard tests via. Sticking a pigs tail into a cutterhead to see how badly it rips it apart. Obviously you still get injured when u hit a safety head, but on a safety head u will probably only lose a fingertip, a square head will take your hand and ask for more.
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4th February 2015, 12:02 AM #9.
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Thanks for the reminder guys.
This particular machine has a heap of safety issues that will need to be addressed before it is switched on.
At this stage I'm about the only person in our mens shed that is likely to use it so there also the question as to whether we will even keep it.
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13th February 2015, 07:49 AM #10Woodswarf
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True. However, ANYTHING that gets caught in them doesn't bounce off, it wraps around, like wire, cord, etc. 'Twasn't pleasant when I saw it happen, once.
I think Byrd in the US will make custom cutterblocks, however, you'd want a donation the size of the price of a used car to get it done…
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18th February 2015, 08:52 AM #11
Fingers should never be anywhere near the cutter block on a Thicknesser.
That said back in the 80s one of the IA lecturers let a Lecturer from another department use the wood machinery after hours.
He pushed a piece in and used his hand instead of a piece of scrap.
He got caught and was trapped for a few hours.
Dont know much more about it. It was a 12inch Woodfast.
Same lecturer left the guard off the guillotine and a student took off a fingertip.
His name is on one of the more famous woodwork textbooks.
So maybe in any workshop that more than the owner uses, everything should be fool and expert proof.
H.Jimcracks for the rich and/or wealthy. (aka GKB '88)
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18th February 2015, 10:02 AM #13.
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18th February 2015, 11:57 AM #14
Is there such and animal????
The Maryborough tafe had a fingernail in a jar from a prevocational student who stuck it under the clamping ram of a 1/2" capacity guillotine. The guard was on and the gap was only enough for the material and the ram was at least 2 1/2" back from that, so is there anything idiot proof????Check my facebook:rhbtimber
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12th March 2015, 01:35 PM #15
I've seen this unsubstantiated claim plenty of times.
Still to have a claimant point to the relevant laws or regulations.
I wouldn't dream of using a square head planer, but since I use a square head in my thicknesser, a Jeffwood from Queensland, Aust... I thought it would be worth the time to actually check these assertions I see about them being "outlawed", and what I suspected was exactly what I found in the official safety organization's websites.
Suggestions and recommendations aplenty...but no information on "outlawed" square cutter heads.
Ironically this is the first specific reference I found....
http://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/worksa...-and-machinery
Apparently in Western Australia....
"Square head cutter blocks are not prohibited provided they were originally designed and manufactured for the machine."
So my strong recommendation is to ignore folk who don't know about this type of machine.
If you plan to use them....
Get to know your square cutter head machines, understand the engineering principles that apply to their manufacture and use.
Get everything including the guarding right.
Listen carefully to competently trained and experienced users. (the sad reality is that they rarely visit places were "internet qualified" safety experts are found)
Regards,
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