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    I might be too late ... and mine is a different model ... but some instructions here for my old woodfast model 1 if it's of any help.

    To install helical head:
    .. disco SEC
    .. remove fence
    .. remove belt
    .. remove infeed and outfeed tables
    .. remove from legs/table
    .. turn upside down to gain access to bearing housings which are seated on the body and held by some allen head bolts.

    .. with old head out remove bearings .. press and / or bearing puller (I got a mechanic mate to remove with a press).

    .. BUY REPLACEMENT BEARINGS.

    .. reverse / rinse and repeat.

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    Cheers for the input Glenn.Yes machine is pulled apart and just waiting for the parts to come back and then get reassembled.I will try and put some before and after photos up but technology is not one of my strong points.

    cheers....Roy

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    JUst a quick update on what happened last night.Chris and Drew came down with the new head and new bearings attached ready for the install.After a bit of tooing and froing and remembering of sequences it was back together.Turned it on for a quick test and she was going with no pieces flying off into space.

    So then the infeed table was put back into place and a straight edge placed across both tables.And then it was realized that the cutter blades are about 1.5mm lower than the outfeed table.Problem being that the outfeed table is fixed.

    So I will be making a phone call to the supplier and seeing what he has to say.Not the result we were after on a pretty cool night.Once again a big thanks to Chris and Drew unbelievable effort guys.

    cheers....Roy

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    Quote Originally Posted by royflatmate View Post
    And then it was realized that the cutter blades are about 1.5mm lower than the outfeed table.Problem being that the outfeed table is fixed.

    So I will be making a phone call to the supplier and seeing what he has to say.
    He'll probably just tell you to put shims under the bearing housings to bring it level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by royflatmate View Post
    So then the infeed table was put back into place and a straight edge placed across both tables.And then it was realized that the cutter blades are about 1.5mm lower than the outfeed table.Problem being that the outfeed table is fixed.
    Quote Originally Posted by royflatmate View Post
    Just been and measured the new head and what i can of the old and all the measurements are the same.So i cannot see how it won't fit.Looks like i may have to take off the infeed table to get more room.But i would like to hold off until someone may have more information.
    One of the above statements must be wrong or the machine has not been put back together to the same way as it was before being pulled apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug3030 View Post
    It makes no sense for the outfeed table to be fixed. First thing I would do is to double-check that the outfeed table has no adjustment mechanism. If the outfeed table is fixed how do you adjust the machine as the blades wear and get sharpened?

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    Doug
    Not that uncommon on Au built machines. I have an Ezycut combination machine on which the outfeed table is fixed and you have to set the blades to the table by adjustment bolts that lift the cutter head bearings. On a stand alone machine not a problem but on a combo you have to dismantle the combo to access the inner adjustment bolts (a real PITA).

    I would think that a fixed table machine is not really suitable for conversion to a spiral head as there is no easy adjustment for height other than lifting the bearings which may not be possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohdan View Post
    Not that uncommon on Au built machines. I have an Ezycut combination machine on which the outfeed table is fixed and you have to set the blades to the table by adjustment bolts that lift the cutter head bearings. On a stand alone machine not a problem but on a combo you have to dismantle the combo to access the inner adjustment bolts (a real PITA).

    I would think that a fixed table machine is not really suitable for conversion to a spiral head as there is no easy adjustment for height other than lifting the bearings which may not be possible.
    Hi Bohdan, I had actually edited that line out of my reply just after I posted it on rethinking the situation. You must have just copied it in the minute or so it was on the forum.

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    A bit frustrating and not a good result for the money involved. The cutter head on this machine is located by vertical chassis panels and is not seated on a horizontal member that can be packed to height as needed so a simple solution like adding packers under the bearing mounts is not possible. We do have a solution depending on where Roy decides to go from here but the machine has to come apart entirely, modified then put back together. I was puzzled for a few minutes when I realised what the problem was and then woke up to the fact that it is the blade protrusion from the cutter head that sets the out feed table height and a spiral head has a fixed diameter so an adjustable height out feed is necessary.
    CHRIS

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    Hi Doug

    Edits happen to the body of a post but not to the summary in "New Posts" which causes confusion as you read the summary, go to the post and it's different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Parks View Post
    A bit frustrating and not a good result for the money involved. The cutter head on this machine is located by vertical chassis panels and is not seated on a horizontal member that can be packed to height as needed so a simple solution like adding packers under the bearing mounts is not possible. We do have a solution depending on where Roy decides to go from here but the machine has to come apart entirely, modified then put back together. I was puzzled for a few minutes when I realised what the problem was and then woke up to the fact that it is the blade protrusion from the cutter head that sets the out feed table height and a spiral head has a fixed diameter so an adjustable height out feed is necessary.
    Quote Originally Posted by royflatmate View Post
    I also rang Woodfast and they say that you cannot fit a spiral cutter to that model as it was not designed for it.I was told that it would take a lot of modifying to make it work as they tried to do it 5 years ago.I would appreciate to hear from anyone who has any experience in this.
    Would be interesting to find out if the supplier of the spiral head has heard of anyone completing a successful conversion of this particular model. If it was sold with the knowledge of exactly what machine it was to be put in and it does not fit then you should be entitled to a refund at least if they cannot give you a solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elanjacobs View Post
    He'll probably just tell you to put shims under the bearing housings to bring it level.

    Not quite just got off the phone and looks like taking off the outfeed table and doing some work there.Can't put any shims under the bearing housing as that bolts to the machine.Last night one of the brainstorming ideas was to modify where the holes are in the frame and lift the housing up a tad.But it was cold late and better to sit on it for awhile than do something rash.I am sure we willk come up with the right solution.Supplier reckons that we are close

    cheers....Roy

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    Who was the spiral head maker if I may ask? I've been planning an upgrade.
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    By geez you blokes type fast.Yes the machine wasn't intended for a spiral headed cutter when it was designed.This was confirmed by woodfast after i had bought the cutter.The supplier reckons he has done it before and others have done it but every machine is a bit different.The outfeed table being set and not being able to be adjusted is not a problem as you set your knives to the table height.As Chris has said we are finding these things out as we go along and i am sure we are going to get it sorted eventually.As for the measurements they were right but i didn't factor in the height of the blades as they adjustable my bad there

    I appreciate all the feedback.Hopefully if someone decides to go down the same path we can have a solution for them.

    cheers....Roy

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob streeper View Post
    Who was the spiral head maker if I may ask? I've been planning an upgrade.
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    Thanks!
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