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    I'm a beginner. I need a thicknesser.
    Genuine question:
    Why would I buy a Dewalt 735 for $1200 when I could buy this for $1350?
    https://www.majorwoodworking.com.au/mwe-13-planer/
    This looks the same as a Grizly model in USA.

    Second question.
    Are the lunchbox thicknessers with segmented head like from Hare and Forbes worth it at $760 or should I aim for one of the machines above with a view to upgrade it to a spiral head later?

    Other options I should be considering?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Another option is to purchase a Ryobi thicknesser or similar and ring Robert Gregory who can sell you a shelix or cts cutter spiral head

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    I probably say this too much but I’d be looking at a second hand 15” model, you could probably pick one up for anywhere between $750-$1000. Would likely never need upgrading unless you want a helical cutter whereas I see oodles of the lunchbox style ones for sale on the second hand market due to people outgrowing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bueller View Post
    I probably say this too much but I’d be looking at a second hand 15” model, you could probably pick one up for anywhere between $750-$1000. Would likely never need upgrading unless you want a helical cutter whereas I see oodles of the lunchbox style ones for sale on the second hand market due to people outgrowing them.
    I think there's some good deals on used 3 phase machines but on single phase people seem to have an inflated expectation.
    Although I notice there are far more options in Victoria than here in SE QLD.
    I'll keep my eyes open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVman View Post
    I'm a beginner. I need a thicknesser.
    Genuine question:
    Why would I buy a Dewalt 735 for $1200 when I could buy this for $1350?
    https://www.majorwoodworking.com.au/mwe-13-planer/
    This looks the same as a Grizly model in USA.
    the unit from Major woodworking looks like a 735 on a stand

    major difference I can see is the Motor -- DeWalt 735 1800 W , MWE 13" ~1100 W. More grunt is better
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Wow!! That’s a recent jump in price from $990 to $1199 plus the infeed and outfeed tables would cost another $160+.
    I bought mine 2nd hand with tables so I’d be looking 2nd hand like bueller said.

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    You could buy 3phase unit then a VFD (for about $150) - just another option
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lappa View Post
    Wow!! That’s a recent jump in price from $990 to $1199 plus the infeed and outfeed tables would cost another $160+.
    I bought mine 2nd hand with tables so I’d be looking 2nd hand like bueller said.

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    You could buy 3phase unit then a VFD (for about $150) - just another option
    I didn't realise the contemporary cost of VFDs. That makes it a real option provided the Wattage is low enough. Thanks for the tip.

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    It’s a great way to pick up cheap machines. Picked up both my Woodfast 10” jointer and Waldown drill press for $250 each due to the 3 phase motors. They would have sold for a fair bit more and much quicker if they had single phase motors in them, probably wouldn’t have even gotten a look in.

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    One of my problems is being confined to a single car garage. The 3 phase machines are larger machinery. This is the main advantage of the lunchbox segmented thicknesser for me.

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    Dunno about the specifics However multi tool heads will cost you a fortune -so if this has that option -go for it -otherwise all about construction and horsepower -but multi cutter style arrangement -really good. particularly if you do recycled.

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    If you consider segmented heads -just go for them -and the$ otherwise expect the odd permanent ridges when you find the odd bit of steel -will always happen know matter how hard you try- but when you do is easily sanded away -if have multi head -can turn the next around -would also look at the ones that cut at an angle as well -better-quieter more efficient.-But basic blades much cheaper. Changing over will be VERY $.

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    Hi Dave,

    Buy what suits your needs, yes in an ideal world a 20" three phase segmented head cutter head would be ideal, but if you don't have the footprint or the space to manoeuvre it into position or if you only ever plan on thicknessing small boards for box making no point having a floor standing thicky.

    Also there's alot of hype around spiral head thicknessers and IMO they're great but they're not that $1k great, once again depends on what you're using it for. The finish that comes off my thicknesser would be on par with sanding a slab of timber at around 60-80 grit sand paper so I don't see the need to upgrade quite just yet. There are other reasons for upgrading eg noise reduction, but that doesn't justify the price tag to upgrade in my books.

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    Thanks for all the replies.
    The cheapest option I am looking at is the Hafco T 13S. This has a segmented head with 26 HSS inserts which are wide. It's not a spiral and the inserts are not angled.

    Or I could pay a bit more for the Sherwood one which is almost identical but comes with carbide inserts and a granite base.

    The Dewalt DW 735 has good reviews but it has gone up in price to $1200 and has 3 straight blades. This is without tables and a guage has been recommended. It can be upgraded with a shelix spiral cutter but this doubles the cost. Which would put it close to the price of a higher quality 15inch machine. Or there's a used 20inch machine in that price bracket just now.

    All of which wouldn't be practical for my limited space.

    This is just a hobby for me so although I am tempted to buy the Dewalt I am leaning back towards the Hafco.

    I also need to buy a dusty and the ducting so that's another hit to the wallet at the same time.



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    So I bought the Hafco on sale and I'm very happy with it. It's fiddly to set the tables level but once set up it worked well.
    I processed some junk bits I had salvaged from dumpster diving. These little bits seem to have come from packing crates made in NZ and are HT. Like pallets.
    Anyway after jointing them and putting them through the thicknesser a few times to test the machine, I thought they looked quite good. So then I made a candle holder from them.
    Then I processed some rose wood which is to repair some fine furniture. These came out excellent.

    I have two big stacks of timber to do so it will get a work out. I'd like to get the dusty working first but that's a whole other topic.

    I need to do a search on here for the source of spare blades that I think was mentioned/recommended somewhere.

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    SJE-tools is the place to go!

    https://sje-tools.com/14-carbide-inserts

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