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Thread: Drill Press Mobile Base
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16th May 2005, 11:37 PM #16
Very few of the machines we use are actualy intended to be mobile & most of them have places to bolt them down.
If you consider the situation properly a safe arrangement should be achievable.
If you are concerned that long work will topple your drill press, Why isn't the work properly supported by an outboard stand.
The swivel castor trap is a good one.
When designing for stability you must consider the underturn of the castor.
I've seen all sorts of cases & theatre props..... that are grosely unstable because the castor placement has not considered underturn.
Options that solve this problem are.
make the base bigger (obvious)
fit fixed castors to one end
or jack off ( minds out of the gutter ) the castors.
always lock the castors turned out.
most of the commercial machine bases use fixed castors at one end and jack off the castors.
An other issue is the "give" in castors. If you have a basicaly stable machine with a low centre of gravity and the base is sufficiently wide, rubber castors can be good as they ride better over bumps, absorb vibration & help prevent walking.
However if the base is a little unstable & the item is tall give in the wheels can add instability.
Hard wheels would be better.
cheers chapsAny thing with sharp teeth eats meat.
Most powertools have sharp teeth.
People are made of meat.
Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.
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17th May 2005, 08:18 PM #17
Can anyone tell me what the slots are for on a drill press base??
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17th May 2005, 08:58 PM #18GOLD MEMBER
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Originally Posted by Island Nomad
Swivel your table to the back and use the base as a table for longer items. The slots have a larger opening at one end to slip a tee net or bolt through.Cheers,
Rod
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24th June 2006, 02:01 PM #19
Bolt it to the floor?
Ok, dumb question, because I need to be making a purchase in a few days. If I buy a pedestal drill that is designed to bolt to the floor, rather than a bench, how do i bolt it to the floor?
This is to go under the house on a concrete slab..."Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate" - William of Occam.
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24th June 2006, 02:21 PM #20GOLD MEMBER
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Originally Posted by rhook
Now back to the mobile base. I have been thinking for a while about mobile bases as I have to make a couple and I don't want to put them on wheels if I can avoid it. I reckon build a box to put the machine on and the floor face of that box would have a heap of small holes drilled in it. Put an air fitting into the box, hook up an airline and it floats on air....or does it. I will try and see if it works. Be a bit dusty as the air cleans the floor I suppose.CHRIS
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24th June 2006, 02:29 PM #21Senior Member
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Originally Posted by rhook
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The example is in a wall but the principle is the same.
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Coldamus
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24th June 2006, 02:42 PM #22
Why would you bother?
If you're not drilling rediculously unbalanced items then you won't need to bolt it down.
If you do decide to bolt it down, use screwbolts. That way if you have to move it, you don't have to worry about what to do with the dynabolts sticking out of the floor.
DanIs there anything easier done than said?- Stacky. The bottom pub, Cobram.
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24th June 2006, 05:09 PM #23
I bolted mine down using 5/8 loxins and a couple of 100mm x 3/8 hex head bolts. The reason I used the loxins was if I wanted to move it the loxins would be flush with the concrete and wouldn't cause a trip hazard.
For those who don't know what a loxin is here is a picture.
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24th June 2006, 06:21 PM #24
In my father's last workshop, after the drill press fell on me, I made a ply box 600 x 600 x 300 deep and filled it with sand (couldnt afford SilentC's bricks back then!) and mounted it on 4 castors .... bewdy!
Fletty
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24th June 2006, 08:08 PM #25
I've got my bench drill press on a pretty substantial metal cabinet with locking castors. The cabinet has 6 metal drawers for drill bits and accessories, which is fair ballast! I really only move it to clean the floor properly and to get to my bandsaw for cleaning.
I don't reckon I'd try to make a floor/pedestal drill mobile, unless I extended the base and then I'd be worried about tripping over it! Definitely Dynabolt it down. If its really in the way, maybe wall and floor mount a pivot, so it swings out of the way?
And Dynabolts are reversible if you're careful. Remove the nut and the piece that it bolted, hang onto the expanding sleeve with some needle nose pliers and bang the bolt into the floor (or wall) with a hammer. It should slide back through the sleeve. Now bang the claw of the hammer (or pincer bar) onto the sleeve and bolt so it bites in, like you would when pulling a stubborn nail. Lever now and the whole assembly should come clean out of the concrete! If you do it carefully and have a stingey nature you can even recycle them!!
Cheers,Andy Mac
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24th June 2006, 10:11 PM #26
back to the floating on air drill press or anything for that matter.
The simple answer is no, it isnt that simple, but.
there is a company called "aerogo" who make "air castors".
now they do exactly want you mention but it is quite a bit more involved, and they are tempramental devices to say the least.
basicaly they are a plate of aluminium with an air passage (yep just 1) thru them and a bellows like skirt on the bottom. in the middle there is a puck that the castor sits on when not inflated.
the down sides
they do not like anything but the smoothest floors, concrete is ok but it better be good and smooth, then theres the cracks, oh the cracks, dont like the cracks
they use large amounts of air.
the air preasure/ flow to each castor must be ballanced in consideration with the load on each castor. sometimes this is easy sometimes most certainly not.
they don't like being underloaded, with no weight on them they are very silly things, with almost enough weight on them they wont lift in a stable manner they sit there fluffing up & down.
they are expensive, seriously.
there are no brakes, one of the bigest features of air castors is the incredibly low friction, you can moove huge weights with very little force. which means things get mooving very quickly BUT stopping is another thing all together.
air castors they are wonderfull things
If you want some I have a bucket full of em going cheap that do a tonne each, seriously you dont want any unless you can put at least 200 or 300 kg on them.
cheersAny thing with sharp teeth eats meat.
Most powertools have sharp teeth.
People are made of meat.
Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.
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25th June 2006, 11:06 AM #27
that's the trick. I shall peruse the shop-which-must-not-be-named (but rhymes with Cunning) this morning.
As it turns out, further consideration has led me to decide to get a bench-mount model instead, but sooner or later i do need to bolt my bandsaw down."Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate" - William of Occam.
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27th June 2006, 12:20 AM #28GOLD MEMBER
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Originally Posted by soundmanCHRIS
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29th June 2006, 12:07 AM #29
The air castors are a bout 300mm square & stand about 30mm high.
however unless the foor is perfectly flat and there are no gapes between the boards you are wasting your time.
check the areogo web site these are the 12" castor.
Send me a PM & we will hook up by phone for further info.
cheersAny thing with sharp teeth eats meat.
Most powertools have sharp teeth.
People are made of meat.
Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.