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3rd March 2009, 05:46 PM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Drill Press Puzzle
I have always been puzzled by this, and somebody may be able to help me. I bought my drill press second hand. Everything about it is pretty standard for a drill press, except that the switch has 3 positions - off, forward and reverse. Anyone know the purpose of being able to run a drill press in reverse?
ThanksThe other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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3rd March 2009, 06:18 PM #2
If you drill the hole in the wrong spot you can hit the "undo" button.
It would be useful where the bit jams and is difficult to remove, reversing the direction would help to free it. I suspect there is a better reason but I can't think of one.
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3rd March 2009, 06:22 PM #3Senior Member
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Does it also have a very slow speed? My Grand Dad had an old drill press that used
auger bits and you had to back them out. It also had a 12" throw.
I often wish mine has reverse!
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3rd March 2009, 06:29 PM #4
Handy with metal work, particularly tapping and such. Also handu if you run sanding disks wheels etc as running the paper in one direction blunts the facets on the grains, reversing a near worn out paper gives a paper equivalent of a 20% worn paper. The grain facets have some wear, but still a fair degree of cut.
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3rd March 2009, 07:07 PM #5
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3rd March 2009, 09:27 PM #6GOLD MEMBER
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Tapping? As in, you put a tap into the chuck and run it down into the hole to thread it? I can see that working. The slowest speed is about 120RPM. I would have thought that was too fast for tapping? That is simply based on when I do it by hand it's more like 1 RPM. Does it really work that fast? How do you regulate feed rate? does the tap just sort of pull the quill down?
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PeterThe other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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3rd March 2009, 09:37 PM #7Senior Member
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I used to work in a place where I would tap a couple of hundred holes in a day and we used a cordless drill. The secret is to use plenty of cutting paste.
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7th March 2009, 08:12 AM #9GOLD MEMBER
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Using Left handed drills.
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8th March 2009, 12:35 AM #10
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10th March 2009, 09:38 PM #12
In 1958 I used to make steel window frames. The factory was owned by a couple of German chaps, and they had me drilling holes in jigs for a few hours each morning, and then, tapping them with a machine that tapped a hole, and on releasing the body pressure in the direction of driving the tap, it automatacillay went into reverse and drove itself out of said hole. The owners supplied me with old cooking fat to add to the bits and taps for cutting or cooling, and as a young lad, that used to set off my hunger pangs . . . fried fat . . . fish and chips smell etc...
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10th March 2009, 10:24 PM #13GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks everyone. I think for the number of holes I tap (none so far, and maybe 2 later this year some time) I'll ignore the reverse and just keep it as a drill press. That way I shouldn't overtax the brain too much
PeterThe other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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11th March 2009, 06:00 PM #14
[quote=petersemple;907851]Tapping? As in, you put a tap into the chuck and run it down into the hole to thread it? I can see that working. The slowest speed is about 120RPM. I would have thought that was too fast for tapping? That is simply based on when I do it by hand it's more like 1 RPM. Does it really work that fast? How do you regulate feed rate? does the tap just sort of pull the quill down?
I've tapped many, many (too many) holes in a drill press while an apprentice. You need a very low speed machine with reverse and good cutting oil. You can't just screw the tap into the metal in one go - it must be reversed to break off the swarf and clear the tap. And by regulating how hard (or soft) you pull it will usually simply feed itself in.
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12th March 2009, 07:40 PM #15
The general description of a tapping adaptor is basically correct, ie push feed down to tap, raise to automatically reverse out of hole. Modern units often have a variable torque limiting clutch built in,which saves the tapes a lot if properly set.
Gear box is an planetary drive which reverses when the thrust on the output shafti in the feed up direction, resumes normal direction as soon as the upthrust is removed by the tap clearing the hole or the operator changing feed direction.
Used to tap 12mm holes in 10mm thick SS bar in a single pass at 80 RPM with a 2HP geared head drill without any hassle, getting well formed threads in about 8 seconds per hole. Interesting hold down tooling used to counter the torque coupled to the work and stop it rotating, allow freedom to hand feed material between holes, but stop the work from being drawn up by the tap. Moderate application of tapping fluid used, tap life of maybe 1000 or so holes. Broke one tap and chipped one over a couple of years, so reasonably docile on tooling.
Reverting back to the original question, there is also the possibility that the original motor has been replaced with one to hand, which had reversing capabilities and switchgear.
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