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1st January 2017, 07:21 PM #61Taking a break
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That style of button has lasted 10+ years on our German panel saw and 15+ years on our Italian CNC router. I guess it depends where they're sourcing parts from.
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9th January 2017, 07:44 PM #63SENIOR MEMBER
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finally looked at the video after the thread got to five pages - figured it must be good...
maybe the drill has some useful features but others mostly just look plain annoying.
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9th January 2017, 09:08 PM #64GOLD MEMBER
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It's both. I don't think the keypad will last and looking at it in the showroom is unlikely to assuage my concerns. However, I could be completely wrong. Others on this thread have had good experiences with this type of keypad. Hopefully the manufacturer fits a robust keypad and it won't give any problems in service.
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10th January 2017, 02:58 AM #65
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10th January 2017, 07:56 PM #66SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi Ian,
My preference is for simplicity and soon as you get lots of electronics potentially you are asking for problems. While it's working, some features like speed control depth may be useful for changing depth if you have to reapeately change settings. The dril stopping at depth would really annoy me. And the proximity warning....
But for me you can't beat the simplicity of the standard old school reliable drill press.
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10th January 2017, 08:35 PM #67Taking a break
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10th January 2017, 08:47 PM #68
^ What they said. I've spent most of my life working around technology in one form or another and while I love the benefits it provides there are times when I'll always go for the simpler option. It's one of the reasons why I like restoring old machinery, if it's still running after 30 years kicking around in someone's shed it will probably outlive me. Can't say that for many manufacturers these days.
I DESPISE most modern cars because they're full of electronics where none is required and when something goes wrong it's expensive as hell to diagnose and fix. Now imagine trying to fix this thing in a decade if the company goes bust and parts are non-existent. You'd probably need a degree in electrical engineering.
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10th January 2017, 09:03 PM #69GOLD MEMBER
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I love technology and those that don't are in the wrong thread. I have had old machines, I now have new ones and I will never go back. I am about to take delivery of a new car which is jam packed with technology and I can't wait but it will be a steep learning curve.
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10th January 2017, 10:19 PM #70SENIOR MEMBER
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I love technology, its especially good when it works.
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10th January 2017, 10:42 PM #71GOLD MEMBER
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Do you know it won't? Of course you don't so why criticise what you haven't seen. Unsubscribe.
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10th January 2017, 10:51 PM #72
To be fair none of us can claim to know how long these will last, that's an unknown at this point. People are bound to have differing opinions, doesn't mean we can't discuss it.
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10th January 2017, 10:58 PM #73Taking a break
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Technology is great, especially when it saves huge amounts of time like motorised saw stops and fences, but, due to falling costs, I think it's now being increasingly used by the marketing department instead of the engineering department.
I don't know how well this will work or for how long, but I do know that when something goes wrong you won't be able to just duck round to your local belt/bearing supplier
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10th January 2017, 11:40 PM #74
None of them around here, so it's mail order or a trip to Sydney anyway.
I do find it perplexing that all the people criticising this machine for it's high-tech possible vulnerability........are communicating their thoughts through the same (indeed higher level) high technology. I'd also be surprised if any of them are driving a car without any high-tech in it (the car would have to be >30 years old). If anything needs to be safety reliable, it's a car.
I could go on about other high-tech tools that I know they own and love (vacs, sanders, drills, CNC et al), but I think I've made my point - it's 2017, not 1917.
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10th January 2017, 11:47 PM #75
I drive an '02 Mazda Bravo ute and it's very simple. No electric windows, mirrors etc and I actually diagnosed and fixed an ignition fault myself a couple of months ago (the contacts had worn down, I soldered new peaks on them and it works flawlessly now). The only real modern convenience is AC but I rarely need it. I'll keep repairing it until it's no longer economical to do so just because of how reliable it is.
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