Thread: Mig Welder

I've always loved this one, consider your self lucky you didn't go for the 275 it pulls around 45amps
They rate a machine at what ever its 100% duty cycle is so if your 250 will weld all day at say 180 amps then what ever the current draw at 180 amps is its rating even if you need 38 amps to weld at 250 amps
Ill check on monday which is the smallest effective fuse you can use with this machine if nobody else posts it by then

The circuit braker must be 50 amps to weld at full bore, 30 if welding at 190.

I understand the ratings of a welder but I have to join an I beam that is 10 mm thick in most parts and 12/13 in the corners so I will use 1.2 wire and a lot of juice. That is why I bought a 250 and not a 190. Yet I can not use my machine unless I actualy modify the factory supplied lead and plug? This is completely crazy. Had I "filed" the earth for the pitiful 15 amp plug they supply to plug it in a 10 amp socket I would void the warranty, yet it is ok for me to dismatle the machine and rewire it to over twice the size wire.
Makes a lot of sense.

Be thankful they even make such a powerful machine in 240v, normally its 3 phase or the highway

And to follow up on my own post even when the manufacturer states a 50 amp "fuse" it is illegal to have a 50 amp circuit braker on a 32 amp powerpoint. Its 32 and 32 if I need a 50 amp CB I need a 50 amp power plug.
I see if I get away with a 32 amp power point and a 40 amp circuit braker. If it trips the circuit Ill have to go full industrial. I've since found cheaper suppleirs of industrial stuff and then there is e-bay.

I've come across a lot of these machines and I haven't come across any problems that couldn't be fixed easily
I have one in my workshop at the moment Ill look at it on monday also speak to some people who use them,and get back then I don't think you have a major expense on your hands

I have the same machine except mine has the remote wire feeder....You do not need a 35 amp plug to run it flat out...I have put probably 100kg of welding wire through mine over several years and it has never been an issue..

As it is with the 15 amp lead fitted you will not get full amperage the machine is capable of..I have never found this to be an issue...On the 4/4 setting with a 15 amp lead fitted the machine still puts out enough heat to blow holes in 3mm plate...Only problem you will find is that when operating for extended periods in the 4/2-4/4 range you will blow the power point fuse...

Don't worry about the lead, plug it in and play...

Hi Marc,

The following assumes that you do not have a distribution board in your shed.
You will need something like the following if you want the RCD at the outlet. These are examples only;



Switched Socket Outlet.
http://updates.clipsal.com/ClipsalOn...56SC432RC&ref=


Plug.
http://updates.clipsal.com/ClipsalOn...=40303&level=4


Circuit breaker.
http://updates.clipsal.com/ClipsalOn...=30001&level=4



Apart from the above information, do you plan to do this yourself or get a sparky?

Yes, I thought it would be ok for medium size stuff and occasional use. I was a bit P/O because I have to extend 2 I beam by adding half a meter to each, and that is a bit on the heavy side. I thought rightly that if I buy a 250 amp machine I want to be able to use it as a 250 amp machine and the manufacturer tells me I can not.
Anyway, so far I got the sparky to wire a 32 amp domestic power powerpoint, no big deal those are cheap. Next is to make a 32 amp extension with a 32 amp domestic plug from HPM, the only I could find that makes this and a floor box (expensive) to have another 32 amp domestic p/p Wire to be determined, either 4 or 6 mm The floor box comes with two sides so I'll have two 15 amp p/p on the other side (may as well) to plug grinder drill etc.
Sent an e-mail to the factory in Victoria and still awayting reply. Also no reply from supplier in Sydney.

Elcangorito ( now there is a name), what are the prices for 3 pin 32 amp industrial p/point w/switch plus a plug, male and female in Thailand?

Originally Posted by Marc

I thought rightly that if I buy a 250 amp machine I want to be able to use it as a 250 amp machine and the manufacturer tells me I can not.

You can safely use it flat out, I have never had any problems with mine with the factory fitted 15 amp plug, even on the 4/4 setting..

That's good then.
I have a question though.

The roller for the wire feeder has two different size grooves.
On one side it's 0.6 and on the other side it's 0.8
However I got a roll of 0.9mm wire and was told it's ok to use 0.8 roller. Is this true or should I buy a 0.9 roller?

I dunno...Mine came with a 1.2/0.9 roller..

I may buy a 1.2 / 0.9 anyway since I need 1.2 wire to weld those I beams

.9 is better but it will still work fine on mild and stainless steel wire

Originally Posted by .RC.

You can safely use it flat out, I have never had any problems with mine with the factory fitted 15 amp plug, even on the 4/4 setting..

You most likely have to change internal wiring to use the full 250A